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slushslush
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Jan 21 2022 11:29am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 12:15pm)
This maybe true, but you can NOT get the Sneaky / Treasure Pest OBJECTIVE below level 15, so the normal catacomb size to explore is WAY larger than a Cured (level 5) Map etc.

Thanks for confirmation, it is appreciated.



Tp is 13
Sneaky is 15

There was a chart with catacomb sizes per level but I can’t remeber where it was posted .

Edit :

Level 5 map is 108 squares

A level 10 maze is 70 squares I think

I may be wrong on that .

Edit : level 15 catacomb is 9x12

Equal to level 5 map

This post was edited by slushslush on Jan 21 2022 11:37am
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Jan 21 2022 11:46am
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 06:29am)
Tp is 13
Sneaky is 15

There was a chart with catacomb sizes per level but I can’t remeber where it was posted .

Edit :

Level 5 map is 108 squares

A level 10 maze is 70 squares I think

I may be wrong on that .


Character level adjusts the size of the catacomb you explore and is NOT constricted by the same rules a MAP maze size is.

For example; exploring normal catacombs from character level 1 to level 8, the size of the catacomb maze has increased, whereas, a Tier I map maze is 10x10 in size and NEVER changes no matter what level your character is. This goes for a Cured (level 5 / Tier IV) map... now if you are level 15 and explore a catacomb (not level 5 / 10 map), the maze size is LARGER then the map maze (that is restricted).

And yest, you are correct, there was a post that had all the Map sizes, I tried hunting it down, pity the portals does NOT have this information.
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Jan 21 2022 11:48am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 12:46pm)
Character level adjusts the size of the catacomb you explore and is NOT constricted by the same rules a MAP maze size is.

For example; exploring normal catacombs from character level 1 to level 8, the size of the catacomb maze has increased, whereas, a Tier I map maze is 10x10 in size and NEVER changes no matter what level your character is. This goes for a Cured (level 5 / Tier IV) map... now if you are level 15 and explore a catacomb (not level 5 / 10 map), the maze size is LARGER then the map maze (that is restricted).

And yest, you are correct, there was a post that had all the Map sizes, I tried hunting it down, pity the portals does NOT have this information.



I added a second edit .

A level 5 map

Is the same size as a level 15 catacombs
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Jan 21 2022 11:58am
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 06:48am)
I added a second edit .

A level 5 map

Is the same size as a level 15 catacombs


I will have to test this out, but I will NOT use a Cured (level 5) map unless my character level is 25-28 because of the Monster level cap being 30.

Not saying you are wrong, but for a solo'er and exploring catacombs (not whistling) 100% of the time, some objectives do NOT spawn even after X amount of steps taken OR encounters... I have completed Ambush before Pinch of Evil... I mean what the fuck is up with that shit?
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Jan 21 2022 12:05pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 12:58pm)
I will have to test this out, but I will NOT use a Cured (level 5) map unless my character level is 25-28 because of the Monster level cap being 30.

Not saying you are wrong, but for a solo'er and exploring catacombs (not whistling) 100% of the time, some objectives do NOT spawn even after X amount of steps taken OR encounters... I have completed Ambush before Pinch of Evil... I mean what the fuck is up with that shit?



Pinch of evil and ambush are both 3 ep spawns

Just unlucky on whichever one spawns I guess

I agree steps matter but so does catacomb size

That’s why lower level maps can spawn stuff that regular cata don’t faster
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Jan 21 2022 12:18pm
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 07:05am)
Pinch of evil and ambush are both 3 ep spawns

Just unlucky on whichever one spawns I guess

I agree steps matter but so does catacomb size

That’s why lower level maps can spawn stuff that regular cata don’t faster


So true, as a solo'er completing all other objectives other than Pinch (Explore the Maze, Bits and Pieces, Hack the Horde, Treasure Pest & Ambush!) say by level 65 is kinda retarded, and the catacomb size(s) are phenomenally larger than Map size... :lol:


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Jan 21 2022 12:22pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 01:18pm)
So true, as a solo'er completing all other objectives other than Pinch (Explore the Maze, Bits and Pieces, Hack the Horde, Treasure Pest & Ambush!) say by level 65 is kinda retarded, and the catacomb size(s) are phenomenally larger than Map size... :lol:



Yeah so your option to complete them is to use maps

But it will slow down your levels

Edit :

I think you are confusing the map vs cata sizes

A level 5 map is the same size as a level 15 cata .

So a level 10 map is larger than a level 15 cata .

And a 55 map is larger than a 55 cata

This post was edited by slushslush on Jan 21 2022 12:24pm
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Jan 21 2022 12:48pm
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 07:22am)
Yeah so your option to complete them is to use maps

But it will slow down your levels

Edit :

I think you are confusing the map vs cata sizes

A level 5 map is the same size as a level 15 cata .

So a level 10 map is larger than a level 15 cata .

And a 55 map is larger than a 55 cata


I think we are on two different subjects right now.

I am talking solo (actually would be funny even in a full group to do the following) and completing the prerequisite objectives BY the time your character is level 15 to activate Sneaky or Treasure pest.

I mean come on, it is in the original post... you have to explore X amount of steps &/or encounters for OBJECTIVES (outside of Complete the Maze)... as a solo'er, and Pinch being the next available after Bits n Pieces @ X level... how the fuck do you complete AMBUSH beforehand around level 60+

The size of the Maze (catacomb or map) is relevant, so if you finally complete the prerequisites for Treasure Pest &/or Sneaky by level 30+, use a level 5 map under the conditions of solo'ing and using /set easy 1 to increase your chance to having it spawn compared to the Catacomb maze size of level 30+.
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Jan 21 2022 12:53pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 01:48pm)
I think we are on two different subjects right now.

I am talking solo (actually would be funny even in a full group to do the following) and completing the prerequisite objectives BY the time your character is level 15 to activate Sneaky or Treasure pest.

I mean come on, it is in the original post... you have to explore X amount of steps &/or encounters for OBJECTIVES (outside of Complete the Maze)... as a solo'er, and Pinch being the next available after Bits n Pieces @ X level... how the fuck do you complete AMBUSH beforehand around level 60+

The size of the Maze (catacomb or map) is relevant, so if you finally complete the prerequisites for Treasure Pest &/or Sneaky by level 30+, use a level 5 map under the conditions of solo'ing and using /set easy 1 to increase your chance to having it spawn compared to the Catacomb maze size of level 30+.



Maps only spawn a square once .

On catacombs you are gaining levels on already explored tiles .

Objective hunting in maps is far superior to catacombs

For objectives that can be done on maps

This post was edited by slushslush on Jan 21 2022 12:53pm
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Jan 21 2022 01:23pm
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 07:53am)
Maps only spawn a square once .

On catacombs you are gaining levels on already explored tiles .

Objective hunting in maps is far superior to catacombs

For objectives that can be done on maps


100% correct, not arguing, it would be awesome if early level objectives SPAWNED faster within their Level requirement.

Level 6 requirement for Pinch of evil (I mean come on, you should get objective a HELL of a lot faster currently)
Level 16 requirement for Ambush (again have to complete other objectives for it to be activated like Sneaky / Pest / Bits)

But, the X # of explored tiles (steps) and/or the # of encounters within the size of the Maze (catacomb or map) is (by my own judgement) is percentage (%) based... so if the catacomb maze size is X by X square, the # of steps and/or encounters increases based on the character level of a CATACOMB (not map, since the map maze size is SET in stone) where the maze increases in size within 5 levels ... i.e. level 4 catacomb size is larger than creating a level 1 catacomb, you can also notice the catacomb size change as you progress in character level, like level 8 is equivalent to a Tier II map.

No one actually notices these things, especially since "Whistle" was introduced, they just level up whistling Dixie all day long after they "complete the maze" etc.
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