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Oct 5 2021 06:02am
faith is stronger
faith shadow is about the same dps as wf IF you ignore ar, but faith has 300%ar and itd which makes it better. You can kindof make it up by maxing penetrate, but it costs 20 points and you still won't hit 95%cth unless you're very high level with full inv of strong charms
also atma is useless in p1, you should use faith gmb and have more dps
also 45max > 120ed on faith zon

Quote (Taurean @ Oct 5 2021 12:51pm)
The conc aura gives 285 - 345% ed, so the act 2 merc would be dealing as much as if the weapon had that ed on it, wouldn't he?

no, local ed is different from global ed

formula looks like:
(polearm base dmg * local ed multiplier + other sources of flat dmg) * global ed multiplier
conc adds 3.45 to the global ed, not local ed


it's the difference between:
((120*1)+50)*13.45=2k
and
((120*4.45)+50)*10=5k


This post was edited by lilith0 on Oct 5 2021 06:12am
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Quote (lilith0 @ Oct 5 2021 07:02am)
faith is stronger
faith shadow is about the same dps as wf IF you ignore ar, but faith has 300%ar and itd which makes it better. You can kindof make it up by maxing penetrate, but it costs 20 points and you still won't hit 95%cth unless you're very high level with full inv of strong charms
also atma is useless in p1, you should use faith gmb and have more dps
also 45max > 120ed on faith zon


You can't get higher than 95% chance to hit and you'll have 95% chance to hit with either faith or windforce.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2021 05:15pm)
You can't get higher than 95% chance to hit and you'll have 95% chance to hit with either faith or windforce.


yes, as i said, you'll hit 95cth, but only if you've got everything maxed out, and it will still cost 20points
i'd wager if i could take a look at his wf bowa, he doesn't have 95%cth

E: also he's right to go wf because budget yes

This post was edited by lilith0 on Oct 5 2021 03:45pm
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Oct 5 2021 09:16pm
Faith >> WF for pvm
And A1 Merc is so shit, gl keeping alive and in range
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2021 03:20am)
assuming you mean on a bowazon-

windforce on zon with faith merc is virtually always the correct answer for PvM. There are some other competitive options, using windforce merc with might/pride a2 merc gives you nearly as much raw DPS but at a slower attack speed (ie damage * frequency is the same, but frequency is slower). Reapers merc can be decent if you're doing a lot of telestomping monster packs with strafe instead of engaging them from a distance with multishot.


This is 100% false, faith > windforce, it's not even close. Usually you put out good posts but I guess you are trolling today?
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Oct 6 2021 12:12pm)
This is 100% false, faith > windforce, it's not even close. Usually you put out good posts but I guess you are trolling today?


Can you elaborate further? WF is higher base dps right? and you still get the aura from it on your merc. How can you reach higher dps with faith?


I'm running wf with faith merc now.. the only problem i find (huge problem) is 40% of the time the merc is too far way and i don't get the aura bonuses. Which is why i think im switching to faith on myself.
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Oct 6 2021 10:56am
best would be carry faith, run pride on merc.
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Quote (SponsoredGarlic @ Oct 6 2021 07:17am)
Can you elaborate further? WF is higher base dps right? and you still get the aura from it on your merc. How can you reach higher dps with faith?


I'm running wf with faith merc now.. the only problem i find (huge problem) is 40% of the time the merc is too far way and i don't get the aura bonuses. Which is why i think im switching to faith on myself.


your merc moves with you when you teleport
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 6 2021 09:22am)
your merc moves with you when you teleport


this is the only time ive seen someone trying to argue enigma over fort for bowa, strongly disagree
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Nov 14 2021 04:23am
PVM wise, a hybrid is much faster at clearing all relevant mf areas than a pure bowa. Best bow for that purpose is faith because you save lots of points in penetrate, multi etc. I'd stick the rest into fury, charged strike and LS. Valk until lvl 17 with gear, Magic arrow until 15 with gear (lightning and phys. immunes spawn suprisingly often in chaos and wsk2) critical until 65-70% is achieved. Best merc weapon in that case is then infinity on a might merc. Everything dies to LF, bosses with CS or guided arrow if dangerous from afar the rest with multi. No problem hitting anything with itd, infinity and fana ar bonus. You also run faster and safer through groups with titans+storrm.

This a game clearing build which doesn't rely on the merc at all, the merc just makes it muuuuch faster.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Nov 14 2021 04:35am
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