I have two for myself. I'd like a few more

i need a car, torn between an M4, or staying with yota because of semantics over performance

You'd really trade a Toyota which has superior resale value and reliability for an M4? I'm hurt. Toyota just cut production by 40%, which means your two vehicles will only continue to appreciate. If you want a car with performance, I'd suggest the Supra. It's still kinda a BMW.

Personally, I'd buy a Lexus, which is obviously Toyota. 2021 Lexus is350 AWD F-Sport.

https://www.kendalllexuseugene.com/inventory/new-2021-lexus-is-350-f-sport-awd-all-wheel-drive-4dr-car-jthgz1e21m5022536/

stick with the yota


they never do you dirty bro

yeah i know I've just been a BMW fanboy like my whole life but also only ever owned toyota trucks lmao. m4 been a dream car since they came out. it's the pop-pop-pop for me

my ol lady had an ISF before the runner, and that thing kicked ass with no major issues for 120k miles before the manifold cracked

still definitely going to keep the truck, i need to haul a dirtbike around and other random hauls once in a while

toyota barely develops anything for the past few years, all they do is buy limited access patent..
you only spending for the badge imo

most of their econo line up are now mazdas
Supra is a bmw
Havent investigated any further but it doesnt look to good for them

This post was edited by Subban2 on Aug 22 2021 07:14pm

the other car i considered was the GR86 too lol Subaru

Supra is a bmw but they sent it back to bmw numerous times during stress testing to fix it. So I’d be comfortable buying it. Toyota wouldn’t slap a badge on it if it wasn’t above par.

They didnt send anything to bmw for testing, they paid for the plan and patent and built their own car from there

Youre literally buying a bmw without the knowledge bmw has

Bmw is known for being unreliable yes but they spend hundred of million every year in r&d and always come up with new stuff every year. The reliability is the price to pay when buying one of those car