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Mar 21 2022 02:50pm
I don't think it is a good idea to put enigma into D4, and I'm sure that anything like that won't happen in D4. In fact there will be no necessity for anything like this, as you can expect the game developers to deliver a way better balance in D4 than what we know from D2.

D3 is not a good game, for various reasons, but they got it right with teleport: D3 teleport is nowhere as good as D2 teleport and on top of that, most other classes got good and competitive mobility skills as well. In this particular instance, this can be called balance, a thing entirely unknown to D2 when it comes to teleport.

Teleport is one of the most broken things in D2, if not THE most broken thing. Giving only one class a mobility spell that vastly outshines anything else cannot be a good thing and it's beyond me how anyone can defend this. In this regard, enigma in D2 IS a good thing, as it helps with balance, albeit only in the end game. For D2, the alternative balancing solution to enigma is impossible, as it would require teleport to be removed or heavily nerfed.

Ha... I remember when I posted a thread in a German forum before D3 came out, outlining that teleport is a balance disaster for D2 and that I'm convinced that it won't be like this in D3, nor should it be like this, for obvious reasons. They teared me into pieces in that thread... but I was right.
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Mar 22 2022 05:03am
Quote (XMD7007 @ Mar 21 2022 09:50pm)
I don't think it is a good idea to put enigma into D4, and I'm sure that anything like that won't happen in D4. In fact there will be no necessity for anything like this, as you can expect the game developers to deliver a way better balance in D4 than what we know from D2.

D3 is not a good game, for various reasons, but they got it right with teleport: D3 teleport is nowhere as good as D2 teleport and on top of that, most other classes got good and competitive mobility skills as well. In this particular instance, this can be called balance, a thing entirely unknown to D2 when it comes to teleport.

Teleport is one of the most broken things in D2, if not THE most broken thing. Giving only one class a mobility spell that vastly outshines anything else cannot be a good thing and it's beyond me how anyone can defend this. In this regard, enigma in D2 IS a good thing, as it helps with balance, albeit only in the end game. For D2, the alternative balancing solution to enigma is impossible, as it would require teleport to be removed or heavily nerfed.

Ha... I remember when I posted a thread in a German forum before D3 came out, outlining that teleport is a balance disaster for D2 and that I'm convinced that it won't be like this in D3, nor should it be like this, for obvious reasons. They teared me into pieces in that thread... but I was right.


d2 is a unique experience, sometimes what people think is broken is actually what gives it it's charm. it was an experiment and had a lot of happy accidents of some sort. it definitely did something right, so maybe the balance is found else where other than the obvious places such as all class having equal movement abilities.

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Mar 26 2022 04:54am
Hmm they probably gonna add enigma with 10 000% ed and this legendary gem that clears the screen periodically..
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May 7 2022 08:39pm
Maybe make it into a weapon or shield lol
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May 7 2022 08:46pm
Quote (dondinomingo @ May 7 2022 10:39pm)
Maybe make it into a weapon or shield lol


interesting
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May 10 2022 08:25am
I always thought having teleport for every character would be horrendous, but then Enigma came along with Runewords. I was wrong. I think it's a good option - I just think it should maybe be harder to create or obtain runes for this time around. It's a little much when anyone can just snap their fingers and be able to teleport. Upping the "challenge" of d4 would be good overall, imo.
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May 10 2022 02:26pm
No, for the love of god! :D
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May 11 2022 03:36pm
someone ban this guy for even bringing this up
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May 12 2022 08:14am
enigma, shako and hoto to d4
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May 12 2022 09:57am
D4 is a reskinned D3 with different skills, but the same endless power creep. You're still going to be relying on set bonuses, movespeed, and grinding efficiency like D3.
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