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Jun 28 2021 09:20am
She has a full Iratha set, Shard & Ward, Twitchthroe and these rings and boots:


Currently specced for blizzard, I do have one respec left tho. What's the first and easiest thing to upgrade that would make her better?
Should I also respec her for FO/FW + 20 static later on?
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Jun 28 2021 09:27am
Probably a 30/20 17fhr shield and fhr hp armor if you got enough res

Try to reach higher breaking points if possible :) (fhr important)

Also you may switch to a soj instead if fcr bp reached and enough res, gives nice mana add and dmg ofc :)

These guides may help too:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63424144&f=57

This post was edited by SIVIART on Jun 28 2021 09:33am
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Quote (SIVIART @ Jun 28 2021 05:27pm)
Probably a 30/20 17fhr shield and fhr hp armor if you got enough res

Try to reach higher breaking points if possible :) (fhr important)

Also you may switch to a soj instead if fcr bp reached and enough res, gives nice mana add


my resistances right now, after -50 hell penalty are: LR 156, FR 76, CR 100, PR 86

swapping Ward for a 30/20 17 fhr shield would leave me with LR 110, FR 30, CR 54, PR 40
I could make up the lack of fire res on a ring and boots, so that is very doable
current FHR = 30, right at the 10 frames breakpoint. should I aim for 42, or 60?

oh and I assume I should aim for the 63 FCR breakpoint, right? 105 doesn't seem doable on classic

This post was edited by deadstarlight on Jun 28 2021 09:43am
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Quote (deadstarlight @ Jun 28 2021 08:38am)
my resistances right now, after -50 hell penalty are: LR 156, FR 76, CR 100, PR 86

swapping Ward for a 30/20 17 fhr shield would leave me with LR 110, FR 30, CR 54, PR 40
I could make up the lack of fire res on a ring and boots, so that is very doable
current FHR = 30, right at the 10 frames breakpoint. should I aim for 42, or 60?

oh and I assume I should aim for the 63 FCR breakpoint, right? 105 doesn't seem doable on classic


Just keep ward try to get perfect one and look for better fcr rings

I think the crusher you have now is more than good enough, shouldn't need anything else, if you start messing with the standard crush item build it gets expensive and doesnt do much

What struggles do you have?

Orb vs blizz is more of a preference
If you dont have a map reveal you could consider max tele if you have mana issues

Firewall can be handy for a crowded orifice or summoner if that's been an issue, I dont think I'd do more than 10 in it though.
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Jun 28 2021 07:44pm)
Just keep ward try to get perfect one and look for better fcr rings

I think the crusher you have now is more than good enough, shouldn't need anything else, if you start messing with the standard crush item build it gets expensive and doesnt do much

What struggles do you have?

Orb vs blizz is more of a preference
If you dont have a map reveal you could consider max tele if you have mana issues

Firewall can be handy for a crowded orifice or summoner if that's been an issue, I dont think I'd do more than 10 in it though.


tbh I just want to make her better just for the sake of making her better :D no struggles with clrushing!
if orb vs blizz comes down to preference, then I'm thinking of 20 orb, 20 ice bolt, 17 cold mastery, 20 static and rest (currently 8 after all prereqs) into firewall + 1 point fire mastery.

or maybe I should focus on leveling a hammerdin to farm chaos...
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Jun 28 2021 04:14pm
I like an eyeless sorc, though you need 180 total res (@60) from 2 rings and boots, this only works once you get a good ring/footware collection going.

If you get a +1 mana after kill + Res rings this sorc is even more fun, Eyeless is also shiny and unique looking.

And yes

Quote (SagittariusA @ 28 Jun 2021 19:44)
you could consider max tele if you have mana issues.


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tbh I just want to make her better just for the sake of making her better :D no struggles with clrushing!
if orb vs blizz comes down to preference, then I'm thinking of 20 orb, 20 ice bolt, 17 cold mastery, 20 static and rest (currently 8 after all prereqs) into firewall + 1 point fire mastery.

or maybe I should focus on leveling a hammerdin to farm chaos...


Right on man you can do some cool tricks with 20 static, most people do other skills but it's a cool build for people that like doing something non standard.


It's really hard to beat full iratha set without breaking the bank and having limited options early in ladder, I'm trying to think what might be an easy alternative and have some sort of benefit

This post was edited by SagittariusA on Jun 28 2021 07:18pm
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Jun 28 2021 10:58pm
Stack up fire res>lightning>cold

Hotspur boots is very good specially doing hell trav when ur crushing
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Jun 29 2021 02:49am
Iratha sorc with 800 life has 5333 HP effective HP against any kind of elemental damage. = 800 / 0.15

To match that with @75 resist, you need 5333 * 0.25 = 1.333 life! An extra 533 life from gear! :wacko:
Using Darkglow armor @80___5333 * 0,2 = 1066. An extra 266 but a crappy armor to start.
Using hots roughly @78.75___5333 * 0.2125 = 1,133 life, or an extra 333 (Same with Hawkmail)
Using hots + Nako @80 ____5333 * 0.2 = 1066. An extra 266 but missing out on massive amu stats.
Hawkmail + Hots @82.5_____5333 * 0.175 = 933 life, and extra 133 life (crappy armor and slow boots though)

So according to arithmetic the last one is the absolute strongest sorc that is possible, with 2 cheap uniques to start! But without max block, it's worthless frankly.

So this only leaves sorc + hots but 333 life is a tall order to get from gear, with twitch it's impossible ... by my estimate. Meaning best you can do is trade HP for +skills, even if you break the bank.
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Jun 29 2021 02:56am
Quote (Korb @ Jun 29 2021 10:49am)
So this only leaves sorc + hots but 333 life is a tall order to get from gear, with twitch it's impossible ... by my estimate. Meaning best you can do is trade HP for +skills, even if you break the bank.


tyvm for doing the math :hail:

reading all you folks wrote for me, I believe the best course of action would be to just focus on building up another character and leave the sorc be :D (and maybe respec her to static/FO, because it's more fun than a standard blizzard build)
I will keep an eye for a 30/20 17fhr + res shield tho, to reach the next FHR breakpoint. thank you!!

This post was edited by deadstarlight on Jun 29 2021 02:58am
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