You know i do like the sound of that but do you think everyone has the entrepreneurial spirit in them to make this work as organizations get larger? I feel like some inevitable heirarchy would break out at supposedly flat organizations as they get larger, valve comes to mind as an example

In a limited sense I suppose.

Coops have been exceptionally successful as utility companies usually offering far better service at lower cost.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jun 17 2021 02:34pm

I can’t speak for everyone and can only offer anecdotes.
In the collective company I work for and the ones near me locally, people who do not want to vote on company decisions do not have to. There are always people who just want to make money so they can fund their private lives. The system still works when those people stay out of the decision making process.

In the country of my birth there is a very mixed perception of socialism because right-wing groups equate authoritarianism with socialism as if they were the same thing. It is important to note that authoritarianism is a form of government, while socialism is an ideology and an economic system. Socialist democracy can exist.

It is also important to note that no ideology, governmental or economic system is designed to withstand shitty people who desire power above all else. Shit will always float to the top. There will always be Woodrow Wilsons and Putins using existing systems to seize and hold power and there will always be another Castro or another Stalin to exploit revolutionary sentiment to seize power. This is a common argument that does not really hold up. Woodrow Wilson intentionally spreading Spanish Flu to Europe does not make capitalism a failure any more than Castro’s purges and famines make socialism a failure.

This post was edited by Doggyfood on Jun 17 2021 02:42pm

it’s communism/full blown socialism.

which has never actually been tried before, so says the left



about as close as it gets. but once these pale pasty privileged people exhaust their delusions, their boomer/older gen x parents will pass away and bestow upon their offspring inheritances. which will suddenly shift these people’s worldview faster than a bullet train

Thanks for the insights and yes i can agree with much of that

the number of antifa purple hairs that end up being trust fund babies once arrested is always a surprise.

The hippies were overwhelmingly trust fund kids. Normal people dont have the funds to take weeks off work

to be fair, most of the antifa mugshots look like people who live in homeless shelters.

not sure how your guys managed to have a left like that lol