If the dems are on the right and by extension id imagine the canadian ndp and liberals to be seen as on the right as well, what do actual lefty parties look like and what are their policies 🤔

Sadly accurate. If must fucking hurt for a mom and dad to see they spent tons of moneys, gave up on 18 years of their life, had to work twice as hard to raise a family only to see they raised someone like that.

Just look at most Americans who are weeb versus actual men

In terms of left and right capitalism is on the right and socialism is on the left. A leftist political party that is moderately left would prioritize policies with incentivised cooperatives instead of Corporations.

The more focused on the coop and the larger the coop the farther left they would be. Somebody who wants the coop to be composed of the entire Society would be a communist and would be as far left economically as you can be.

Somebody who is Middle left would be somebody who wants the public to have full access to the means of production. Someone just barely on the left would be in favor of mostly private property with some Public Access resources and lots of Public Services.


Bernie still wants capitalism but wants more worker freedom and public services. So he's a bit to the left of center economically.

Basically the entire industrialized world is Middle too far right economically. This isn't because that's the only workable system, it's because America has actively destroyed any economy that strayed any further left than center

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Peru
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_and_Republican_Movement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Socialists_in_America

The US has a bad reputation for assassinating leftist political leaders so there hasn’t really been a large movement in the country since the start of the Cold War.

Reminder that in international politics, Libertarian and Republican mean something very different.

lmao, loosely using the term capiitalism*

what we have is corporate socialism where the top 1% never lose.

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That is the logical end goal goal of capitalism.

Im interested in hearing about these incentivized coops, I've heard of cooperatives but not that particular term. And what are examples of parties that promote these kinds of polices?

Okay so I'm giving this more thought, and if we are just staying in the middle of the authoritarian/libertarian axis, then it basically goes









Left <--Communism -- Socialism -- Social Democracy -- Liberalism (Center) -- Progressivism -- Neoliberalism -- Corporatism --> Right



In America 99% of our politicians are between the middle of progressivism and the middle of corporatism. Capitalism basically lives everywhere on this spectrum to the right of socialism.

Bernie wants Social Democracy, where the market is capitalist but with heavy regulation and wealth redistribution so the benefits of the economy are more distributed.

If you go towards the authoritarian (up) from corporatism you end up somewhere around fundamentalist and fascist. If you go down from there you end up with libertarian capitalism or anarcho-capitalism (even though anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron).

If you go towards the authoritarian from communism you end up at some kind of national communism, where not only does the state own everything but they also tell you what you can and can't do. If you go down from communism you end up at anarchy in which nobody tells you what to do but everybody can take everybody else's stuff if they have a real need for it. I.e. nobody can take your x-box, but if you have a year's supply of insulin and I'm going to die without it I can take it.

If you go up from liberalism you end up at some kind of center-nationalism, where the state controls everything but not towards any particular economic goal. If you go down you end up in mutualism where all interactions are voluntary and there is no controlling force or ideology at all. This would be what most people think of when they think of anarchy.

not for middle class businesses.