Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ 15 May 2021 18:37)
When you say “we all know”, what percentage of moviegoers do you think actually does? Unless it’s a well established character like Wolverine in his freaking 10th movie, studios aren’t going to assume the audience is familiar with the character and they’d be right. If even 25% of people knew I’d be surprised. Your average person has the attention span of a goldfish and there’s a reason blockbuster films ALWAYS have to spell shit out for their audience.
Movies in general would be a million times better if every director/writer/studio created projects with the singular purpose of making a worthwhile film, but their goal is first and foremost $$$ . The easiest way for them to ensure they at least make some money, is to follow the same formula everyone else does.
Make it PG-13 (even if it has fuck all business being anything but R)
Cast familiar faces
Fill the first half of the film with *bad* jokes
And have more action than plot
If the story, acting, and everything else are subpar they can at least make their nut by following the rules. Until people stop paying to see every major blockbuster that follows this formula, F&F, Transformers, anything Marvel, they’ve got no reason to switch it up.
Lower your expectations as much as possible and hope you can find some enjoyment out of it, that’s my tactic and it works okay.
Spider-man and relevant characters have had multiple different instances of their origins being told over multiple different decades and multiple different mediums. A lot of people, especially in the Western world, are going to be aware of the origins of the bigger comic book characters.
Even if you want to argue that venom isn't big enough to be known and I accept that argument, so what? Why does every single fucking comic book movie need to be an origin story?
Look at most action films, we don't get 65 fucking minutes of "here is the character" we get like "it's ok I'm a cop, been doing it 11 years." Then he breaks into a building and kills a terrorist group.
If you really must have an origin, do it in a strategic opening scene or flash back or have a character for their past show up for 5 minutes.
"But we have to see him grow into his powers" ok then do a Batman year one style story. Also "growing into his powers" was never the interesting part of Eddie. Being a completely narcissistic asshole villian incapable of accepting responsibility for his decisions turned "actual fucking human" is the important part of his origin and it was never even considered for the venom origin film. If you aren't going to stay true to the character with your origin, skip it and hint at it. Don't spend the majority of a feature film thrashing it.