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Re1gn
#61 May 2 2021 11:22pm
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Quote (DHA @ May 2 2021 09:36pm)
Do you even played hammerdin ?

Hdin has disadvantage against 90% of chars.
Hdin< nec, druid, trapsin, es sorcs, bowa..

No good players die to random invisible desync spams, if that's your point.


Gotta agree here. Hdin is op af vs trash players but as soon as someone knows what they're doing, a hdin will have his work cut out for him.
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#62 May 4 2021 08:41am
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Quote (Ognadibik @ May 2 2021 12:13pm)
They can buff bone nec dmg at the same time
It sucks in pvm too anyway
Problem solved


you are funny lol
nec are way stronger than hdin in pvp as long as its not bmpk
hdin is fine in gm pvp. Hammer hurts as hell but its the whole point of this char : its really hard to hit against decent player but when you do, you one shot or you almost one shot them. Thats why hdin can win literraly any duel in 1v1 but got a disavantage against most classes.

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#63 May 4 2021 09:32am
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Quote (harg @ May 4 2021 04:41pm)
you are funny lol
nec are way stronger than hdin in pvp as long as its not bmpk
hdin is fine in gm pvp. Hammer hurts as hell but its the whole point of this char : its really hard to hit against decent player but when you do, you one shot or you almost one shot them. Thats why hdin can win literraly any duel in 1v1 but got a disavantage against most classes.


In what matchups do you think he has NO disadvantage btw? Just out of curiosity
As i see he has only clear disadvantage against druids
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#64 May 4 2021 10:02am
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Quote (Ognadibik @ May 4 2021 04:32pm)
In what matchups do you think he has NO disadvantage btw? Just out of curiosity
As i see he has only clear disadvantage against druids


Druids necs traps bow

95 es sorcs now that bnet buffed wsg and made smite foh weaker
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#65 May 4 2021 10:45am
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Quote (Piwah @ May 4 2021 06:02pm)
Druids necs traps bow

95 es sorcs now that bnet buffed wsg and made smite foh weaker

Hmmm, yeah nec and trap are certainly hard

Well, against bow he can just take grief and click ?
Been since 10 years i duelled, so i dont really remember how it goes, but i dont see losing vs an ama with max block
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#66 May 4 2021 10:50am
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Quote (Ognadibik @ May 4 2021 05:45pm)
Hmmm, yeah nec and trap are certainly hard

Well, against bow he can just take grief and click ?
Been since 10 years i duelled, so i dont really remember how it goes, but i dont see losing vs an ama with max block


Was talking about pure hdin, not griefdins
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#67 May 4 2021 11:01am
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Quote (Piwah @ May 4 2021 06:50pm)
Was talking about pure hdin, not griefdins


Well, in 1v1 he can just take a grief from stash even with hammerdin skillbuild
Hitting an ama with pure hammer only seems very unreliable thats true :D
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#68 May 4 2021 11:05am
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Quote (Ognadibik @ May 4 2021 07:01pm)
Well, in 1v1 he can just take a grief from stash even with hammerdin skillbuild
Hitting an ama with pure hammer only seems very unreliable thats true :D


Very nice and skilled match-up imo.

Griefdin is meh. Pretty sure good bowa would shit on him.

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#69 May 4 2021 11:06am
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Quote (Cambo @ May 2 2021 03:55am)
Putting a PVP Damage Penalty on Hammers Damage?

What Are Your Thoughts? :huh:


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#70 May 4 2021 12:13pm
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Quote (DHA @ May 4 2021 10:05am)
Very nice and skilled match-up imo.

Griefdin is meh. Pretty sure good bowa would shit on him.


Like a barb matchup, bad charges are not worth the risk/reward. I think the hdin is heavily favored using oak and tele. Just stomp the zon and tele in front of their run path? The hdin has a large margin of error (can take so many hits from dr/mb/high life) whereas the zon can get caught on a puddle or attacking during a throw lock. Desynch doesn't really affect the matchup because namelock works through it and like the long-desynch whirls, it becomes easy to predict movespeed.
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