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Stefbef
#1 Apr 19 2021 05:33pm
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Something like this:

Guilli
Highlord
Enigma
Loh gloves
String of ears
Raven
Fcr ring
Gore rider
Grief pb + passion legendary mallet (explained below)

Merc(might):
Reapers toll in p8 or pride in solo games
Treachery
Guilli cham or gaze

Simply max sword mastery and stuff like shout iron skin bo etc

Theory behind it is wsm bugging your weapons:

RC = Base speed right claw (above the boots)
LC = Base speed left claw (above the gloves)
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(( [RC] + [LC] ) / 2 ) + ( [RC] - [LC] )

Legendary mallet has 20 wsm, grief pb has -30 wsm, so:

((-30 + 20 ) / 2 ) + ( -30 -20 ) = -55 wsm

Which gives these bp’s:

IAS - attack speed [ticks] - attacks per second
0 - 5/5/5/5/10 - 4.16
7 - 5/5/5/5/9 - 4.31
24 - 4/4/4/4/9 - 5

I know I tried it in pvp on a war cry zeal barb and it was pretty fun. Just never thought it through for pvm. Think it can deal quite some dmg with the high % ed from loh, pride and might merc, and also the high crushing blow. Probably won’t beat ww and defenitely not zerk but could be fun.

Thing is with -55 wsm the deceprify barely affects you and with grief and hL you should still maintain ridiculous, if not max ias cos of it
Stefbef
#2 Apr 19 2021 05:36pm
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And yes coz of the wsm bug ur grief pb becomes primary weapon and thus will be the only weapon hitting, passion is only there to make the wsm bug possible with a weapon as slow as possible and for the zeal skill
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I did this a few years ago actually and it's ok, eventually just respeced to frenzy after doing ubers a couple times. I came to the same conclusion of using a hammer on the off-hand, think I even made a post here years ago asking question about wsm bug.

Another obscure Passion build is a Zerkzon, though it's a tier below even the zealbarb.

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Quote (Oilerfan @ 20 Apr 2021 01:46)
I did this a few years ago actually and it's ok, eventually just respeced to frenzy after doing ubers a couple times. I came to the same conclusion of using a hammer on the off-hand, think I even made a post here years ago asking question about wsm bug.

Another obscure Passion build is a Zerkzon, though it's a tier below even the zealbarb.



Sounds fun ^^ too bad zon can’t dual wield and hit with a grief

I’m sure it would be pretty strong with the crit skill
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Another neat thing with zeal barbs since you're not really invested in any of the barb attack skills, you can keep a wolfhowl/beast around be 3-builds-in-1.
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Quote (Oilerfan @ 20 Apr 2021 01:50)
Another neat thing with zeal barbs since you're not really invested in any of the barb attack skills, you can keep a wolfhowl/beast around be 3-builds-in-1.



Ye that’s defenitely true, I used war cry myself in pvp and tbh 5,0 attacks per second stun pretty hard together with wc stun :P
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Quote (Stefbef @ Apr 19 2021 07:51pm)
Ye that’s defenitely true, I used war cry myself in pvp and tbh 5,0 attacks per second stun pretty hard together with wc stun :P


I'm actually making a 99 fcr tele fireclaw/shockwave druid with 1 pt hurricane for the .8 second damage tick to gets stuns from a distance on swirl'd enemies and then attack with 6.25 attacks per second 13k+ fireclaw.

In theory seems like it'd be ok especially vs nec/sorc, haven't had much of a chance to use it yet.
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Quote (Oilerfan @ 20 Apr 2021 01:55)
I'm actually making a 99 fcr tele fireclaw/shockwave druid with 1 pt hurricane for the .8 second damage tick to gets stuns from a distance on swirl'd enemies and then attack with 6.25 attacks per second 13k+ fireclaw.

In theory seems like it'd be ok especially vs nec/sorc, haven't had much of a chance to use it yet.



Yes I thought of that

Dumb me read something about werewolf being able to use shock wave so I build a 99 fcr wolf druid with 40 sec hurricane (max cyc) just for the stun, only to find out wolf can’t use shockwave :D

But sounds good with bear

Bear can’t cast hurricane tho unfortunately (think he can cast geddon tho)
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Quote (Oilerfan @ 20 Apr 2021 01:55)
I'm actually making a 99 fcr tele fireclaw/shockwave druid with 1 pt hurricane for the .8 second damage tick to gets stuns from a distance on swirl'd enemies and then attack with 6.25 attacks per second 13k+ fireclaw.

In theory seems like it'd be ok especially vs nec/sorc, haven't had much of a chance to use it yet.



But if u like those chars u should try my fireworks smiter.

Basically a smiter with destruction pb, enigma, dragon shield, 2x wisp etc etc for as many % on strike effects as possible.

Looks somewhat like this in pvp:



Stun is insane together with the smite stun

Legacy torch too, wisps proc lightnings, dragon procs hydra. Destruction molten boulder volcano and twister or so ^^ its fucking fun
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Quote (Stefbef @ Apr 19 2021 08:04pm)
But if u like those chars u should try my fireworks smiter.

Basically a smiter with destruction pb, enigma, dragon shield, 2x wisp etc etc for as many % on strike effects as possible.

Looks somewhat like this in pvp:

https://i.imgur.com/pJs4W68.png

Stun is insane together with the smite stun

Legacy torch too, wisps proc lightnings, dragon procs hydra. Destruction molten boulder volcano and twister or so ^^ its fucking fun


That does seem neat, I question the damage output but if it stuns hard enough could be a moot point vs noobs. Imagine what'd it look like in D2R :o

I briefly tried destruction pb on kicksin so the idea has been in my head before, but it's not as useful since nn anymore stun on sin and stuff like wizzy/lacerator/fleshripper > for shield setups.
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