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Apr 2 2021 11:20pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 3 Apr 2021 07:15)
The MONSTER LEVEL CAP IS 50... not the drops quality


I have never, not a single time had that happen to me and I have run thousands of maps.

You know anything about this? Is there a difference between SC/HC maps?
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Quote (RabbitRoyal @ Apr 3 2021 06:20pm)
I have never, not a single time had that happen to me and I have run thousands of maps.

^Cheeya You know anything about this? Is there a difference between SC/HC maps?


Has nothing to do with CORE. The mechanics are the same... I edited my post if you would like to check it again.
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Apr 2 2021 11:23pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 3 Apr 2021 07:21)
Has nothing to do with CORE. The mechanics are the same... I edited my post if you would like to check it again.


It is 100% not a thing on SC, so either you are making things up or it is a HC only thing.

I agree that when welling, you can get side drops +2 tiers of the item you welled. That does not apply to map drops though.

Cheeya should be able to tell us if this is a thing on HC, I believe that his opinions are based on the truth and what can actually be observed so let's see what he says.

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Quote (RabbitRoyal @ Apr 3 2021 06:23pm)
It is 100% not a thing on SC, so either you are making things up or it is a HC only thing.

I agree that when welling, you can get side drops +2 tiers of the item you welled. That does not apply to map drops though.


That is an interesting statement and post you made there. So I have to question your response by asking you a simple question.

When you do a NORMAL catacomb @ level 45 to 55(maybe 58) and encounter a wave of EPs, Have you NEVER had a level 55 item drop?

EDIT: I am going to say that you have, BUT, you can deny this easily as it is based on my word vs your word.

#2: by the way... I maybe wrong saying this, but you have a higher % chance when doing a Map and the Monster level increases your chances to find those items.

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Quote (izParagonzi @ 3 Apr 2021 07:27)
That is an interesting statement and post you made there. So I have to question your response by asking you a simple question.

When you do a NORMAL catacomb @ level 45 to 55(maybe 58) and encounter a wave of EPs, Have you NEVER had a level 55 item drop?


That is completely irrelevant. Normal cata and a lvl 25 map are not the same thing. Is this rookie hour or what?
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Quote (RabbitRoyal @ Apr 3 2021 06:30pm)
That is completely irrelevant. Normal cata and a lvl 25 map are not the same thing. Is this rookie hour or what?


Oh damn... rookie statement now... Okay.. I am a dumbfuck and talking shit right now, it has NOTHING to do with Monster level and has EVERYTHING to do with Map level... oh fuck... I am a rookie here... thank you very much proving my point that I am a dumbfuck and everything revolves around Map level instead of MONSTER LEVEL when it comes to Drop Quality.

EDIT: kinda wants to make me wonder who the rookie is right now.

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Quote (izParagonzi @ 3 Apr 2021 07:34)
Oh damn... rookie statement now... Okay.. I am a dumbfuck and talking shit right now, it has NOTHING to do with Monster level and has EVERYTHING to do with Map level... oh fuck... I am a rookie here... thank you very much proving my point that I am a dumbfuck and everything revolves around Map level instead of MONSTER LEVEL when it comes to Drop Quality.

EDIT: kinda wants to make me wonder who the rookie is right now.


I am confident that will let us know whether or not there is any difference between hc/sc maps when he gets online. Your view of it is at the very least inconsistent with how it works on SC and I can only assume that it is different on HC.

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Quote (RabbitRoyal @ 3 Apr 2021 00:20)
I have never, not a single time had that happen to me and I have run thousands of maps.

^Cheeya You know anything about this? Is there a difference between SC/HC maps?



I don’t think I’ve ever send a 55 drop out of a lvl 25 ever. I think I’ve had a few at 53/54 but I can’t remember if it was in a TD or map.
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Quote (Cheeya @ 3 Apr 2021 08:06)
I don’t think I’ve ever send a 55 drop out of a lvl 25 ever. I think I’ve had a few at 53/54 but I can’t remember if it was in a TD or map.


So it seems they are the same :P

Thank you for your input :D
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Quote (RabbitRoyal @ Apr 3 2021 07:04pm)
I am confident that ^Cheeya will let us know whether or not there is any difference between hc/sc maps when he gets online. Your view of it is at the very least inconsistent with how it works on SC and I can only assume that it is different on HC.

God bless


Quote (Cheeya @ Apr 3 2021 07:06pm)
I don’t think I’ve ever send a 55 drop out of a lvl 25 ever. I think I’ve had a few at 53/54 but I can’t remember if it was in a TD or map.


Oh I think I need to explain this a bit more for Rabbit and Cheeya to respond in a confident manner.

Map: Level 25 has a Monster Level Cap of 50 (this is true)
Monster Level 50 has a chance to drop level 45 items (this is true)
If an EP that is Level 45 up to level 50 spawns, the Drop Quality can influence the Tier level to level 55 (again this is true)

The Map level being 25 is NOT the MONSTER level cap, the MONSTER lvl cap is 50 and the DROP quality is based ON MONSTER LEVEL AND NOT THE MAP LEVEL... true or false??????

OMFG... let us trashcan a level 25 map because it is shit that only drops lower tier items... fucking moronic

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Apr 3 2021 12:16am
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