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Mar 8 2021 12:45am
So in d2 legacy, the pvp we had was balanced around community driven rules to make things fair, and of course this revolved widely around a great deal of unintended bugs in the game that allowed certain classes to keep up in certain ways.

People, including myself, are saying we want everything to stay exactly the same. This would be great if they DO NOT fix the old bugs. But if they do, things are gonna be different and some things may need to be buffed/nerfed.

And this isn't to mention how difficult it will be to teach a new generation of gamers GM ruling for duels.

Few things that come to mind:

1) WSG - Holy shit if this is fixed it will change everything about the intra-class dynamic of balance and force the use of FHR, which will alter old meta setups from the past 20 years.
2) Desynch - Oh yeah, if this is fixed there won't be much FRW play in pvp anymore. The only thing that allowed FRW characters to sort of keep up with FPK was the desynch and community driven rules vs. bone prison and slow effects.
3) STR bugging gear - We'd be seeing a lot lower health pools across the board on all classes.
4) C/Ting - Decreased ability to skillfully jump players from further distances.
5) Maintaining namelock while switching right click skills - Not sure if this was intended or not, but if were changed, it would completely change FPK tele-stomping.
6) AI summons covering characters from even damage that is supposed to pierce. IE: A teleporting Necro with summons. If it were changed, FPKs would have extreme difficulty approaching ranged damage.

I bring it up because pvp was the end game that kept me playing D2 legacy for 20 years. Let's hope they don't change too much, and if they do let's hope it's balanced accordingly.
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Mar 8 2021 12:47am
I feel like I've read this thread every single day from someone new since day 1 of this sub forum being added to jsp.

This post was edited by 13elair on Mar 8 2021 01:13am
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Mar 8 2021 01:26am
Cry?
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Mar 8 2021 01:29am
hiho,

yes.

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Mar 8 2021 02:03am
it is a big topic for most pvp enthusiasts i personally have always hated wsg and desynch
spamming w and cheesing frame glitches not my idea of a great dueling experience but in the other hand how else are you gonna survive annoying stun locks
i guess what annoyed me most is the skill gap/knowledge gap as if you didnt know how these exploits work ie hammers/frw you stand no chance .. still like wtf is this shit and why (ya bad lol ok true)
i like the namelock jump because it actually requires skill to lock on quick
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Mar 8 2021 02:20am
Just deal with the change. If something was fixed and resulted in nerfing, well I guess that meta is finished.
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Mar 8 2021 02:23am
They said they aren’t fucking with the game mechanics dude..it’s the same just different gfx ontop of the game.
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Mar 8 2021 02:45am
Quote (iSmoke420 @ Mar 8 2021 09:03am)
it is a big topic for most pvp enthusiasts i personally have always hated wsg and desynch
spamming w and cheesing frame glitches not my idea of a great dueling experience but in the other hand how else are you gonna survive annoying stun locks
i guess what annoyed me most is the skill gap/knowledge gap as if you didnt know how these exploits work ie hammers/frw you stand no chance .. still like wtf is this shit and why (ya bad lol ok true)
i like the namelock jump because it actually requires skill to lock on quick


I would like wsg and desync to be fixed for good but it's game breaking to face some opponents as trapsin lol
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Mar 8 2021 03:02am
Quote (OnceTwice @ Mar 8 2021 09:20am)
Just deal with the change. If something was fixed and resulted in nerfing, well I guess that meta is finished.


This.

Quote (TSBoyer @ Mar 8 2021 07:45am)


People, including myself, are saying we want everything to stay exactly the same.


Yeah, sure. Why does everyone who wants things to stay the same or change in a certain way feels the need to use this phrase?

PEOPLE WANT!
If you guys (doesn't matter which side) can't put solid arguments, then just stop posting stupid crap, instead of using the "people want" argument as if it was some kind of an ultimate weapon.

Yeah, the meta might change. So what?
Do you also want them to disable improved visual distance because "people" complain that PVP won't stay the same as in bugged 20yr old game?

Seriously, people demand it that you stop the cry.
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Mar 8 2021 03:57am
They are going to fuck it, hard. Trust my words.
They have said they will make changes in the future, based on what people say. In the year 2021 as we are, that means twitter and reddit children shitting all over our beloved diablo 2.
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