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Oct 19 2021 10:48am
D4 will have shared loot and no real trading. It will be instantly trash.
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Oct 24 2021 09:29am
I really hope trading will be a mix of D2 and D3.

They need to remove the higher chance of finding gear for currently played character like if I play Sorc I should not only find Tal Set stuff. That ruined trading.

What if Items and Runes get "Trade Levels"? Like if I have a Ber Rune it would have item level 35 for example and trade level "230-350"

In order to give this item to someone else the Player has to give me items in that score range. If he has low items he has to give me as many items til 230, I or he cant agree on giving it free or for less. That would be the down side. But cant free boost others or sell for money because in order for a trade to work we have to be between 230-350 for example.

Would break JSP and my FG though

You wont be able to try and get items cheaper , you cant give free, but item vs item would be legit.

If I find a Maras 20 it has trade score 450 while maras 30 is at 1000. Someone has to give me runes til atleast 1000 to achieve my maras 30. If he cant afford he can buy my 20 maras for 450.

This would basically make us trade items vs items or runes vs items or whatever has a trade score can be traded but only vs the required score

This post was edited by OviMf on Oct 24 2021 09:34am
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Quote (OviMf @ Oct 24 2021 08:29am)
I really hope trading will be a mix of D2 and D3.

They need to remove the higher chance of finding gear for currently played character like if I play Sorc I should not only find Tal Set stuff. That ruined trading.

What if Items and Runes get "Trade Levels"? Like if I have a Ber Rune it would have item level 35 for example and trade level "230-350"

In order to give this item to someone else the Player has to give me items in that score range. If he has low items he has to give me as many items til 230, I or he cant agree on giving it free or for less. That would be the down side. But cant free boost others or sell for money because in order for a trade to work we have to be between 230-350 for example.

Would break JSP and my FG though

You wont be able to try and get items cheaper , you cant give free, but item vs item would be legit.

If I find a Maras 20 it has trade score 450 while maras 30 is at 1000. Someone has to give me runes til atleast 1000 to achieve my maras 30. If he cant afford he can buy my 20 maras for 450.

This would basically make us trade items vs items or runes vs items or whatever has a trade score can be traded but only vs the required score




So basically you never want the market to change via supply & demand? That's just stupid.

This post was edited by Vilify on Oct 25 2021 07:02am
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Oct 25 2021 11:09am
d4 actually looks really fuckin bad.

It looks like a Baldurs gate remake

Quote (OviMf @ 24 Oct 2021 11:29)
I really hope trading will be a mix of D2 and D3.

They need to remove the higher chance of finding gear for currently played character like if I play Sorc I should not only find Tal Set stuff. That ruined trading.

What if Items and Runes get "Trade Levels"? Like if I have a Ber Rune it would have item level 35 for example and trade level "230-350"

In order to give this item to someone else the Player has to give me items in that score range. If he has low items he has to give me as many items til 230, I or he cant agree on giving it free or for less. That would be the down side. But cant free boost others or sell for money because in order for a trade to work we have to be between 230-350 for example.

Would break JSP and my FG though

You wont be able to try and get items cheaper , you cant give free, but item vs item would be legit.

If I find a Maras 20 it has trade score 450 while maras 30 is at 1000. Someone has to give me runes til atleast 1000 to achieve my maras 30. If he cant afford he can buy my 20 maras for 450.

This would basically make us trade items vs items or runes vs items or whatever has a trade score can be traded but only vs the required score


This is not a good idea.

This post was edited by Crunkt on Oct 25 2021 11:10am
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whats d4
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Quote (Crunkt @ 25 Oct 2021 20:09)
d4 actually looks really fuckin bad.

It looks like a Baldurs gate remake



This is not a good idea.



That's interesting. Visually it reminds you Baldurs Gate?
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Oct 30 2021 03:42pm
Not sure
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Quote (Madmaxio @ 30 Oct 2021 17:28)
That's interesting. Visually it reminds you Baldurs Gate?


Its more than just visually its the pace of the game and how the character progresses and how you get better items etc.

ya after diablo2/gauntlet legends there were a billion games like it so many even from baldurs gate series alone had liek 10 games torchlight even but not the same graphics and once Diablo 3 came out the way the spells were so simplistic and the pace of the game was just spam click kill waves of enemies thats exactlyu what diablo 3 was a garbage hack n slash not even an rpg and the way Diablo 4 looks the bastardization of the genre is infected into the game with boring different skinned abilities and crush everything type of gameplay.

Diablo 2 hell was insanely hard thats the point. In Baldurs gate you werent going to run into a horde of physical immunes that completely fucks your melee character cuz the game is too simple. Even diablo 3 bastardized the game play too much. Diablo 4 will likely follow the same route and I can go through all 3 difficulties mashing on my right click button. That isnt fun; There is nothing that is as good as Diablo 2. The genre has been too bastardized I think for Diablo 4 to let itself be difficult enough to change it from a hack n slash baldurs gate style into the true rpg and item grind that is the greatest rpg in Diablo 2

This post was edited by Crunkt on Oct 30 2021 03:45pm
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Oct 30 2021 04:25pm
Quote (QuestBug @ May 27 2021 04:35am)
Tbf almost all ARPGs have garbage PvP, and D2 has very limited PvP viability only because of many, many rules made over decades.

Pub PvP in D2 is pretty much an ugly gankfest just like every other ARPG.



+1…. True
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