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Jan 15 2021 08:44am
Quote (dropship @ 15 Jan 2021 11:53)
I tried this for PvM. It's bad.
For PvP probably even worse

The idea is that you use beast to change into werewolf, then attack with BOTD to cast poisons on kill that are synergized with your poison.


PvM setup:
breath of the dying berserker axe -> for dmg
Bone armor (nobody knows this runeword: it is SOL UM UM -> gives resists and chance to cast bone armor), Probably u could use Chains of honor, or Fortitude
Phoenix shield -> for constant life regen once u manage to kill stuff
andy face
Gore rider
Dracul grasp, u can also experiment with lying of hands gloves -> they give u 350% dmg against demons
Raven frost
rare ring with all resists, minimum dmg
Metalgrid amulet (for attack rating), probably u could try other
verdungo, thundergod or rare

charms with like 35% fhr
16 small charms 5@

Congratulations, you spend a lot of money and the character sucks.
Also it cannot cast poison dagger, since u use an axe. And you turn to werewolf so u can only use normal attack

20 poison dagger
20 poison explosion
0-20 poison nova -> if u are pure PvM u dont need this, since BOTD will cast, if u try also use poison dagger and fail, you need to put points here
1 stone golem -> it slows down stuff
1 golem mastery
1 summon resists
20 bone wall
Rest into prerequisites and bone armor synergies (so bone prison!!) -> idea is that your Bone runeword armor recasts Bone armor automatically, so u buff its synergies







PvP setup:
Unique dagger with mod +Attack rating per level. You probably want other mods: 40% attack speed, "normal" attack rating, damage, eth self repair. Still the attack rating per level most important
Probably Enigma of Bone, or normal enigma so u can teleport and catch opponent
Shako for life [or crown of ages - but why u want it? you will die anyway?]
Gore rider
Angelic ring 1x
Angelic amulet
Raven frost ring
Verdungo belt
Trang gloves
Whitstan's Guard shield with ELD rune -> nobody knows that the Orphan set shield gives a ton of block, so nobody uses it, while it gives max block without much dex investment
Please note: this setup gives u terrible faster cast rate, so u teleport like a tortoise

get some decent FHR breakpoint with charms
use 16 5@ small charms to get some res
torch
anni

Skillers u can use poison and bone 7faster walk. So in theory u can catch something.
Once u will be deleting this char since it sucks, u can later use the 7 faster walk charms to make other necro: the full necro set poison that changes to act2 monster and uses the FRW skillers to move around quite fast.


The tactics are that u try to somehow walk into enemy hero and attack with poison dagger. If it is a sorc, they teleport away while casting fireballs, or blizzards are you.
Since u have terrible faster cast rate, you teleport slower then them. Hopefully you got 86 fhr from skillers, so at least your FHR doesnt suck.
If it is a ww barb, they ww you and u die.
If it is a smiter, they smite u and u die. If they life tap you, you die even harder.

So the whole idea is that this is some person who has reflex of a grandmother, who will stand still. Then you walk into them, try to attack with poison dagger (requires attack rating to even hit) and then your level 28 posion dager with synergies does 10k dmg over 12 seconds.
Of course you should multiply it with 25% (since enemy probably has 75% res, although sometimes they have less) and then by 17% (since PvP scaling). So you basically do zero damage over 12 seconds.
So it is like 10 000 x 0,25 x 0,17 = 425 damage over 10 seconds

The idea is that your opponent went to the toilet (but for number 2), so he wont be there for few minutes. So you frantically try to hit with the dagger (you have 12k AR while enemy paladin has 25k defense) and then when it hits, you do zero damage over 10 seconds. So maybe after like 60 minutes u will kill him.
But hey, you have gore rides that give u some: open wounds and crushing blow - this is the main source of your damage. So you do more crushing blow dmg and bleed than posion, so there is a small chance that u can kill somethign.

I once managed to kill a level 94 barbarian with my level 9 smiter that used the unique axe "gnasher" (nobody knows gnasher: it is the small unique axe that has crushing blow AND open wounds) - the opponent went afk for like 15 minutes and I just kept drinking mana pots and attacking. He died!
So sky is the limit!

This is a true 1/10 build for PvM and a true 0/10 build for PvP, I fully recommend!


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Jan 15 2021 08:58am
Quote (DONLRA @ Jan 15 2021 05:48am)
Cry?


Antidotes.
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Jan 15 2021 09:28am
To compare you can reach 56606 * 2 = 113213 pretty easy(full precast :P) on a 102fcr psn-daggersin :)

Will make most pvp chars 1 lifed.

Pvp Dmg is 4811 then vs 75pr and in hell.

The build also manage 16804 ar without visio helm and 20,2k with visio (statted as MB with stormshield, or even facet jmod)

Last for 102,4 seconds, in hell and deal 94 dmg pr sec. (no sry that was when i inlcuded psn scs xD)

Total time is with lvl 8 psn dagger 10,4secs
DPS = 4811/10,4 = 462

This post was edited by gel87 on Jan 15 2021 09:42am
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Jan 15 2021 12:26pm
Quote (dropship @ 15 Jan 2021 12:53)
I tried this for PvM. It's bad.
For PvP probably even worse

The idea is that you use beast to change into werewolf, then attack with BOTD to cast poisons on kill that are synergized with your poison.


PvM setup:
breath of the dying berserker axe -> for dmg
Bone armor (nobody knows this runeword: it is SOL UM UM -> gives resists and chance to cast bone armor), Probably u could use Chains of honor, or Fortitude
Phoenix shield -> for constant life regen once u manage to kill stuff
andy face
Gore rider
Dracul grasp, u can also experiment with lying of hands gloves -> they give u 350% dmg against demons
Raven frost
rare ring with all resists, minimum dmg
Metalgrid amulet (for attack rating), probably u could try other
verdungo, thundergod or rare

charms with like 35% fhr
16 small charms 5@

Congratulations, you spend a lot of money and the character sucks.
Also it cannot cast poison dagger, since u use an axe. And you turn to werewolf so u can only use normal attack

20 poison dagger
20 poison explosion
0-20 poison nova -> if u are pure PvM u dont need this, since BOTD will cast, if u try also use poison dagger and fail, you need to put points here
1 stone golem -> it slows down stuff
1 golem mastery
1 summon resists
20 bone wall
Rest into prerequisites and bone armor synergies (so bone prison!!) -> idea is that your Bone runeword armor recasts Bone armor automatically, so u buff its synergies







PvP setup:
Unique dagger with mod +Attack rating per level. You probably want other mods: 40% attack speed, "normal" attack rating, damage, eth self repair. Still the attack rating per level most important
Probably Enigma of Bone, or normal enigma so u can teleport and catch opponent
Shako for life [or crown of ages - but why u want it? you will die anyway?]
Gore rider
Angelic ring 1x
Angelic amulet
Raven frost ring
Verdungo belt
Trang gloves
Whitstan's Guard shield with ELD rune -> nobody knows that the Orphan set shield gives a ton of block, so nobody uses it, while it gives max block without much dex investment
Please note: this setup gives u terrible faster cast rate, so u teleport like a tortoise

get some decent FHR breakpoint with charms
use 16 5@ small charms to get some res
torch
anni

Skillers u can use poison and bone 7faster walk. So in theory u can catch something.
Once u will be deleting this char since it sucks, u can later use the 7 faster walk charms to make other necro: the full necro set poison that changes to act2 monster and uses the FRW skillers to move around quite fast.


The tactics are that u try to somehow walk into enemy hero and attack with poison dagger. If it is a sorc, they teleport away while casting fireballs, or blizzards are you.
Since u have terrible faster cast rate, you teleport slower then them. Hopefully you got 86 fhr from skillers, so at least your FHR doesnt suck.
If it is a ww barb, they ww you and u die.
If it is a smiter, they smite u and u die. If they life tap you, you die even harder.

So the whole idea is that this is some person who has reflex of a grandmother, who will stand still. Then you walk into them, try to attack with poison dagger (requires attack rating to even hit) and then your level 28 posion dager with synergies does 10k dmg over 12 seconds.
Of course you should multiply it with 25% (since enemy probably has 75% res, although sometimes they have less) and then by 17% (since PvP scaling). So you basically do zero damage over 12 seconds.
So it is like 10 000 x 0,25 x 0,17 = 425 damage over 10 seconds

The idea is that your opponent went to the toilet (but for number 2), so he wont be there for few minutes. So you frantically try to hit with the dagger (you have 12k AR while enemy paladin has 25k defense) and then when it hits, you do zero damage over 10 seconds. So maybe after like 60 minutes u will kill him.
But hey, you have gore rides that give u some: open wounds and crushing blow - this is the main source of your damage. So you do more crushing blow dmg and bleed than posion, so there is a small chance that u can kill somethign.

I once managed to kill a level 94 barbarian with my level 9 smiter that used the unique axe "gnasher" (nobody knows gnasher: it is the small unique axe that has crushing blow AND open wounds) - the opponent went afk for like 15 minutes and I just kept drinking mana pots and attacking. He died!
So sky is the limit!

This is a true 1/10 build for PvM and a true 0/10 build for PvP, I fully recommend!


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Jan 15 2021 03:56pm
Quote (dropship @ Jan 15 2021 11:53am)
I tried this for PvM. It's bad.
For PvP probably even worse

The idea is that you use beast to change into werewolf, then attack with BOTD to cast poisons on kill that are synergized with your poison.


PvM setup:
breath of the dying berserker axe -> for dmg
Bone armor (nobody knows this runeword: it is SOL UM UM -> gives resists and chance to cast bone armor), Probably u could use Chains of honor, or Fortitude
Phoenix shield -> for constant life regen once u manage to kill stuff
andy face
Gore rider
Dracul grasp, u can also experiment with lying of hands gloves -> they give u 350% dmg against demons
Raven frost
rare ring with all resists, minimum dmg
Metalgrid amulet (for attack rating), probably u could try other
verdungo, thundergod or rare

charms with like 35% fhr
16 small charms 5@

Congratulations, you spend a lot of money and the character sucks.
Also it cannot cast poison dagger, since u use an axe. And you turn to werewolf so u can only use normal attack

20 poison dagger
20 poison explosion
0-20 poison nova -> if u are pure PvM u dont need this, since BOTD will cast, if u try also use poison dagger and fail, you need to put points here
1 stone golem -> it slows down stuff
1 golem mastery
1 summon resists
20 bone wall
Rest into prerequisites and bone armor synergies (so bone prison!!) -> idea is that your Bone runeword armor recasts Bone armor automatically, so u buff its synergies







PvP setup:
Unique dagger with mod +Attack rating per level. You probably want other mods: 40% attack speed, "normal" attack rating, damage, eth self repair. Still the attack rating per level most important
Probably Enigma of Bone, or normal enigma so u can teleport and catch opponent
Shako for life [or crown of ages - but why u want it? you will die anyway?]
Gore rider
Angelic ring 1x
Angelic amulet
Raven frost ring
Verdungo belt
Trang gloves
Whitstan's Guard shield with ELD rune -> nobody knows that the Orphan set shield gives a ton of block, so nobody uses it, while it gives max block without much dex investment
Please note: this setup gives u terrible faster cast rate, so u teleport like a tortoise

get some decent FHR breakpoint with charms
use 16 5@ small charms to get some res
torch
anni

Skillers u can use poison and bone 7faster walk. So in theory u can catch something.
Once u will be deleting this char since it sucks, u can later use the 7 faster walk charms to make other necro: the full necro set poison that changes to act2 monster and uses the FRW skillers to move around quite fast.


The tactics are that u try to somehow walk into enemy hero and attack with poison dagger. If it is a sorc, they teleport away while casting fireballs, or blizzards are you.
Since u have terrible faster cast rate, you teleport slower then them. Hopefully you got 86 fhr from skillers, so at least your FHR doesnt suck.
If it is a ww barb, they ww you and u die.
If it is a smiter, they smite u and u die. If they life tap you, you die even harder.

So the whole idea is that this is some person who has reflex of a grandmother, who will stand still. Then you walk into them, try to attack with poison dagger (requires attack rating to even hit) and then your level 28 posion dager with synergies does 10k dmg over 12 seconds.
Of course you should multiply it with 25% (since enemy probably has 75% res, although sometimes they have less) and then by 17% (since PvP scaling). So you basically do zero damage over 12 seconds.
So it is like 10 000 x 0,25 x 0,17 = 425 damage over 10 seconds

The idea is that your opponent went to the toilet (but for number 2), so he wont be there for few minutes. So you frantically try to hit with the dagger (you have 12k AR while enemy paladin has 25k defense) and then when it hits, you do zero damage over 10 seconds. So maybe after like 60 minutes u will kill him.
But hey, you have gore rides that give u some: open wounds and crushing blow - this is the main source of your damage. So you do more crushing blow dmg and bleed than posion, so there is a small chance that u can kill somethign.

I once managed to kill a level 94 barbarian with my level 9 smiter that used the unique axe "gnasher" (nobody knows gnasher: it is the small unique axe that has crushing blow AND open wounds) - the opponent went afk for like 15 minutes and I just kept drinking mana pots and attacking. He died!
So sky is the limit!

This is a true 1/10 build for PvM and a true 0/10 build for PvP, I fully recommend!


thanks for the laugh! :rofl: :rofl:

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Jan 18 2021 11:52am
Quote (Vilify @ Jan 15 2021 12:22pm)
I pray this is a copy paste and that you didnt waste your life making this.


I actually have this character! Level 86.

Wanted to see how well Bone runeword works. It sucks.
Probably fortitude would be better, but then no auto-recast bone armor on your wolf from beast runeword!

You can kill monsters in Acts 1-3, later your mercenary kills more than u.

This post was edited by dropship on Jan 18 2021 11:52am
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Jan 18 2021 12:10pm
Quote (dropship @ Jan 18 2021 06:52pm)
I actually have this character! Level 86.

Wanted to see how well Bone runeword works. It sucks.
Probably fortitude would be better, but then no auto-recast bone armor on your wolf from beast runeword!

You can kill monsters in Acts 1-3, later your mercenary kills more than u.


Wolf from beast runeword ok.
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Jan 18 2021 12:18pm
Quote (Wisteria @ Jan 18 2021 06:10pm)
Wolf from beast runeword ok.



bear, wolf? doesnt matter

after all someone had sex with your mother, so people can mistake beasts

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Jan 18 2021 01:16pm
Quote (dropship @ Jan 18 2021 01:18pm)
bear, wolf? doesnt matter

after all someone had sex with your mother, so people can mistake beasts

https://i.imgur.com/W4rwKpF.png


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Jan 18 2021 01:25pm
Quote (dropship @ 18 Jan 2021 19:18)
bear, wolf? doesnt matter

after all someone had sex with your mother, so people can mistake beasts

https://i.imgur.com/W4rwKpF.png


bearmancer with brand actually works decently
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