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Dec 10 2020 03:54pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Dec 10 2020 09:51pm)
What you do NOT factor in is the "Random" chance you get a 0 or 1 prof point from an action, I proved this in other thread.

I got a 30/100 and a 20/100 test that you asked for. You stated that there was a 20% average, guess what, those 2 tests proved your wrong... I got a 25% average ... 50/200... so it is random right... fuck, what would have happened if I got 60/200?... random right.

Your attempt of proving it by competing with me has already debunked your mathematics... why should I rub your nose in the fact you are fucking wrong... you want that to happen?

You want me to show you and SMASH your nose into the ground RUB it all into that face AGAIN? Really... really... are you sadistic or something else?


Talking mathematics with you is EXACTLY WHAT SMASHING MY NOSE INTO THE GROUND FEELS LIKE :wallbash:
I posted the maths in the other topic, you didn't listen to it then, why would you listen to maths now?

heck you couldnt even disprove the fact that in a group you can use revenge more often and hit more mobs with it



I'll post both results cos you're lazy as fuck
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Dec 10 2020 04:06pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Dec 11 2020 10:54am)
Talking mathematics with you is EXACTLY WHAT SMASHING MY NOSE INTO THE GROUND FEELS LIKE :wallbash:
I posted the maths in the other topic, you didn't listen to it then, why would you listen to maths now?

heck you couldnt even disprove the fact that in a group you can use revenge more often and hit more mobs with it



I'll post both results cos you're lazy as fuck


Mathematically speaking (even though posted in previous thread), can you explain how 1 character with EE gear solo'ing gains LESS prof points using the same abilities and completing the same amount of Master Quest with just under 4k kills to another character using basically 0EE gear that has over 50k more prof points and the same amount of Master Quests?

WTF... 50k MORE prof points, basically the same amount of kills (i.e actions) ... 50,000 more prof points = basically 50,000 more actions. And yet, the Same amount of Master Quests (7)... what the fuck does time have to do with this shit... speed running in full group?

Bufcore iZZi linked Kills: 31,157 MQ Attempts: 7 = 81,000 prof points (round down)

Monk DDAwe linked Kills: 27,667 MQ Attempts: 7 = 26,000 prof points (round down)

Yup... 50,000+ more prof points... 'what is that again'.... 50,000+ more prof points, and just under 4k more kills.


view previous posts here: Bufcore iZZi linked Kills: 31,157 MQ Attempts: 7 = 81,000 prof points (round down)

Monk DDAwe linked Kills: 27,667 MQ Attempts: 7 = 26,000 prof points (round down)

Yup... 50,000+ more prof points... 'what is that again'.... 50,000+ more prof points, and just under 4k more kills.
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Dec 10 2020 04:08pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Dec 10 2020 10:06pm)
Mathematically speaking (even though posted in previous thread), can you explain how 1 character with EE gear solo'ing gains LESS prof points using the same abilities and completing the same amount of Master Quest with just under 4k kills to another character using basically 0EE gear that has over 50k more prof points and the same amount of Master Quests?

WTF... 50k MORE prof points, basically the same amount of kills (i.e actions) ... 50,000 more prof points = basically 50,000 more actions. And yet, the Same amount of Master Quests (7)... what the fuck does time have to do with this shit... speed running in full group?

Bufcore iZZi linked Kills: 31,157 MQ Attempts: 7 = 81,000 prof points (round down)

Monk DDAwe linked Kills: 27,667 MQ Attempts: 7 = 26,000 prof points (round down)

Yup... 50,000+ more prof points... 'what is that again'.... 50,000+ more prof points, and just under 4k more kills.


view previous posts here: Bufcore iZZi linked Kills: 31,157 MQ Attempts: 7 = 81,000 prof points (round down)

Monk DDAwe linked Kills: 27,667 MQ Attempts: 7 = 26,000 prof points (round down)

Yup... 50,000+ more prof points... 'what is that again'.... 50,000+ more prof points, and just under 4k more kills.


and how long did each of these take? You need to factor in the time taken otherwise it's meaningless, I could get a character with 100,000 prof points with 0 MQs Therefore infinitely better than both of your examples.
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Dec 10 2020 04:14pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Dec 11 2020 11:08am)
and how long did each of these take? You need to factor in the time taken otherwise it's meaningless, I could get a character with 100,000 prof points with 0 MQs Therefore infinitely better than both of your examples.


Guess what, I just thought about this fucktard debate and came to the same fucking conclusion Legirotto did.

It is based on Successful Hit Check actions right?
In a full group, you still have to rely on your OWN actions right?
While solo'ing, it is still based on your OWN actions right?

Time/speed doesn't have jackshit to do with gaining prof points... this is a fucking pointless debate... fuck off with your BULLSHIT, because you will NEVER gain more prof points in a group run even including Abilities.
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Dec 10 2020 04:17pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Dec 10 2020 10:14pm)
G
.. this is a fucking pointless debate... fuck off with your BULLSHIT, because you will NEVER gain more prof points in solo in the same amount of time.


fixed.
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Dec 10 2020 04:20pm
You regurgitate words like no other paranazi
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Dec 10 2020 04:21pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Dec 11 2020 11:17am)
fixed.


You fixed nothing.

example:

Using a Battleaxe (Tier level within character level range with 0 EE) will still give a SUCCESSFUL HIT CHECK.
Using a Longsword (Tier level within character level range with 0 EE) will RANDOMLY give a SUCCESSFUL HIT CHECK

So... fuck off with your bullshit... If I wanted to prove you incorrect, I would have done so.

EDIT: oh w8 4 it... you are comparing heavy wpns with normal wps... okay, to break it down.. sword vs axe

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Dec 10 2020 04:29pm
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Dec 10 2020 05:45pm
Lets point out the obvious here:
Someone who gets 6000 prof points in a day is more success at prof hunting than a guy who gets 3000 prof points in a day if they spend the same amount of time playing LS.

Are we in agreement here?



Received 1307 prof in 1h 25 min.
I'll do some nice screenshots of it.
Now at 9326/11000
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Dec 10 2020 05:45pm
Due to the rules of D2jsp, I can NOT have more that 3 topics in a section... so in general LS chat, I currently have 3 topics, and also here in LS Guide section... but wanted to post the following statement without getting any of my topics closed.

By the way... this statement is relevant to this thread also (as long as you can perceive it the same manner)

"It is better to eat the meat from the bones using your fingers and using the bones to make stock"

Okay... now that statement is really off key (upon first reading it) for playing LS right? Or is it?

Well, we need to change things around to make it fit LS playing and prof hunting.

When running in a full group, you are basically eating the meat from the bones with your teeth (mouth)... yes it is faster and most likely throwing away the bones (as in missing drops) because you left meat on the bone.

Now, with solo'ing, you are eating the meat with your fingers and NOT missing any of the drops.

Either scenario = the same gratification of being full. BUT, how tasty is the stock afterwards?
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Dec 10 2020 05:51pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Dec 11 2020 12:45pm)
Lets point out the obvious here:
Someone who gets 6000 prof points in a day is more success at prof hunting than a guy who gets 3000 prof points in a day if they spend the same amount of time playing LS.

Are we in agreement here?



Received 1307 prof in 1h 25 min.
I'll do some nice screenshots of it.
Now at 9326/11000


How about I point out the obvious to you:

1 person does 7k actions and gains 6k prof while in a full group run in 1 hour.
1 person does 7k actions and gains 6k prof while solo'ing in 1 hour.

WTF is the difference? same actions, same timeframe and still receiving the same prof points?

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Dec 10 2020 05:54pm
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