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Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 15 2021 12:04am)
Your so called King is a failure, just like a Lion using the Lioness to hunt for them... lazy is just lazy.

What you DON'T GET... who the fuck cares about speed... IT IS ALL ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF CLICKS.


Well you're calling yourself a "prof hunter specialist" whilst having a highest of 7 prof is the biggest joke of the topic.
I'm not even hunting for prof and i've got 2x at 17. Lets even compare heal profs, also miles ahead

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You want more actions... use fucking Quick Draw in your calculations.


not a bad thought.
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Jan 14 2021 06:17pm
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Well you're calling yourself a "prof hunter specialist" whilst having a highest of 7 prof is the biggest joke of the topic.
I'm not even hunting for prof and i've got 2x at 17. Lets even compare heal profs, also miles ahead



not a bad thought.


I never called myself a specialist... I have always been a Prof Hunter since I started LS. What you don't get, is that I deleted my Softcore character that had way more Ranks (22 Sword just to name 1 of the many double digit ranks I had) and also the double digit ranking HC characters that died which I deleted. Stop fucking around with bullshit when you don't know the history remarks.

Use QD all you like, it boils down to the same simple truth... amount of clicks, speed runs don't count... fuck test it out for yourself... set your goal to 10,000 actions in group runs, then do the same while solo'ing using your usual gear, now do something fucking different, use crap/mediocre gear during the start of each wave, then when you get say 8-10 prof points, switch to your EE gear to kill off the wave and switch back and forth for the next 10,000 actions... basically you still get the same results outside of the last scenario being beneficial.
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Jan 15 2021 06:58pm
Welling @ level 30 using level 25 items and dropping V / VI / VII gain a good rate of prof points. Basically get like max 10 gain per item vs VI+, and still decent rate gain vs V's... mind you I use Heavy weapons and kill V's of a bit faster than a normal weapon.

Did not take note on Tier III / IV's though (next time). If Well still remains, will be able to test VIII's three times (what I have in vault)
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Jan 16 2021 04:22pm
The Rate (consistency) of weapon prof welling is a lot better than encountering normal monsters or EPs while solo'ing.
The Rate (consistency) of healing charms don't change when welling in comparison to exploring catacomb or maps. But has a higher Rate (consistency) compared to weapons (and maybe cast charms)

Well, based on using Heavy weapons and noticing more 'consistency' of gaining +1 on prof rank table while welling vs exploring catacomb etc.

EDIT: As for welling, depends on item lvl (dropped in) / character lvl and equipment level for best Rate (consistency) of prof gain.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 16 2021 04:28pm
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Jan 16 2021 06:47pm
Still testing Welling:

@ level 53 using 35 battleaxe / 25 focus:

TierIII / IV / V / VI dropped = 0 Rate (consistency)... did not gain a single prof point for weapon, but same consistency for healing.

VII / VIII dropped = Low Rate (consistency) ... gained like 3 maximum during kill for weapon. Basically the same as normal killing 3 monster wave @ current level, difference is that I can gain more heal profs before killing off the last mob in a wave.

Don't have 30, 35, 40 or 50s to test them out, and the well did disappear.
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Jan 16 2021 10:44pm
Still testing welling: Level 13 using TierIII Battleaxe vs TierIII items dropped into Well;

The Rate (consistency) is good, it is better than normal explore kills. Basically 5-8 prof gain per well monster.

Well died after 15 items.
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Jan 17 2021 02:40am
Level 32 welling Tier V / VI's using 20 & 30 Battleaxe.

Rate (consistency) seems decent, but since killspeed is faster, most likely more prof gain for normal axe with same Level & EE since more actions.

Well died again, around 10-15 items again.
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Jan 18 2021 05:26pm
Level 2 Welling using T3 Items (Battleaxe, plate, wild 0 ee, all + Max Life and 2 items with total 27 dex add) = Welling T3 items:

The Rate (consistency) is great. For normal weapon, definitely need ee + max life on weapon;
Since rate is great, need at least 30ee on wpn as well to increase killspeed, still wpn type factors to take into consideration ... low/high end damage and consistent damage.

11 actions = 10 prof
10 actions = 10 prof
14 actions = 10 prof
11 actions = 10 prof
11 actions = 10 prof
Null (got 10, did not record actions)
Null (got 10, did not record actions)
Null Damn... got Rank 2 Battleaxe ... so off to level 3.
10 actions = 10 prof
10 actions = 10 prof
10 actions = 10 prof
12 actions = 10 prof
10 actions = 10 prof
10 actions = 10 prof
11 actions = 10 prof
11 actions = 10 prof
13 actions = 10 prof
13 actions = 10 prof . leveled up to 4
12 actions = 10 prof: Well died.

So, need to keep actions to around 14 that kills off well monster if speed is your issue. Personally the max life helps a ton without needing to town for regen, fish or comfrey. Junk items all of them.
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Jan 25 2021 05:13pm
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Test #4: /set easy 0

iz4 / level 01.00 to 10.00 using Tier III Spear (5 dex / 104 Life) / Tier III Plate (15 Dex / 164 Life) & Tier III Wild (12 Dex / 227 Life)

SPR0: 473 to ? : Actions 000 to 000 : Kills: 112,692 to 112,692 : Welled Items 00 to 00

1 Cata: 17 waves : 000-040 actions : Lvl 1.84 : #Kills 112,732 (+40) : 1x 0 EP
1 Cata: 21 waves : 040-102 actions : Lvl 2.97 : #Kills 112,781 (+49) : 1x 3 EP
1 Cata: 24 waves : 102-157 actions : Lvl 3.93 : #Kills 112,828 (+53) : 1x 0 EP
1 Cata: 41 waves : 157-319 actions : Lvl 5.81 : #Kills 112,916 (+88) : 1x 3 EP Azapnid (9 mirrage)

1 Cata: 20 waves : 000-000 actions : Lvl 0.00 : #Kills 112,xxx (+00) : 1x 3 EP : 1x 2 EP
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Test #4: /set easy 0

iz4 / level 01.00 to 10.00 using Tier III Spear (5 dex / 104 Life) / Tier III Plate (15 Dex / 164 Life) & Tier III Wild (12 Dex / 227 Life)

1 Cata: 17 waves : 000-040 actions : Lvl 1.84 : #Kills 112,732 (+40) : 0x 0 EP
1 Cata: 21 waves : 040-102 actions : Lvl 2.97 : #Kills 112,781 (+49) : 1x 3 EP
1 Cata: 24 waves : 102-157 actions : Lvl 3.93 : #Kills 112,828 (+53) : 0x 0 EP
1 Cata: 41 waves : 157-319 actions : Lvl 5.81 : #Kills 112,916 (+88) : 1x 3 EP : Azapnid (9 mirrage)
1 Cata: 34 waves : 319-478 actions : Lvl 7.27 : #Kills 112,980 (+64) : 1x 3 EP : 1x 2 EP
1 Cata: 43 waves : 478-746 actions : Lvl 9.14 : #Kills 113,067 (+87) : 1x 3 EP : (pinch) & Bits: (5 wave added)

SPR0: 0473 to 0687 (+214) : Actions 0000 to 0746 : Kills: 112,692 to 113,067 (375) : Welled Items 00 to 00
... [214/746*100] = 28.68% : [Actions 746 / 375 Kills] = 1.98 : [Kills 375 / 180 Waves] = 2.08 Monster per Wave

--- Switched to Tier IV Longsword : 75% Enhanced Effect ---

LSR6: 2921 to 0000 (+000) : Actions 0746 to 0000 : Kills: 113,067 to 113,xxx (000) : Welled Items 00 to 00

1 Cata: 00 waves : 000-000 actions : Lvl 0.00 : #Kills 112,xxx (+00) : 0x 0 EP

1 Cata: 00 waves : 000-000 actions : Lvl 0.00 : #Kills 112,xxx (+00) : 0x 0 EP
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