Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 24 2020 11:47pm)
and like I said, since reporting isn't uniform or required, nobody can give you a good estimate.
Glad we've come full circle.
The alternative would be to just believe the people -- who mind you do not even know the details on basic police cases, and take their word that black people are just routinely being unjustifiably shot by police for no reason and hunted down -- which isn't true.
The Washington Post -- overall, a very left wing source with their news, has a really good comprehensive database on it. Which sounds like a pretty damn good estimate. All of this information is going to be out there one way or another to the public -- and people are going to look at individual cases for lawsuits.
And routinely, time after time, almost all of these previously claimed unjustified cases, have come out to be actual justified uses of force. And are there instances of unjustified use of force? Yes there are. There are also cops who go to prison. However, most people have no understanding of criminal law, police use of force/being a cop -- why police have special protections in place (because they do have to make immediate split second decisions).
This is from 2015, and these numbers have gone DOWN from that even.
I believe there was around, 13 unarmed black people shot by police in all of 2019. Which doesn't necessarily mean 13 unjustified shootings. You would have to look at them on a case by case basis. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.dolanconsultinggroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Dispelling-the-Myths-Surrounding-Police-Use-of-Lethal-Force.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjMnJ26-87sAhVNZM0KHbyJDqQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3QfYQ1bCO2gmJ46J_zYvZH
This research paper (obviously not written by me) is using the CDC mortality rates, Washington Post data, and FBI data statistics.
Here are just some quick data points, but I urge anybody who is curious to read the full research paper and/or do further research of their own.
"The Washington Post reported that there were 248 deaths of African-American males by the police, and the U.S. Census estimated that there were 21,213,642 African-American males in the U.S. in 2015"
"When compared to the Washington Post estimate of 990 deaths from police use of force in 2015, this number pales in comparison to 9,704 to 14,703 deadly weapon assaults against officers. These numbers reveal that hundreds of times each year police officers show restraint in the face of dangerous assaults and do not kill their assailants even when they may be legally justified in doing so. Based on the 9,704 known deadly weapon assaults and the estimate of 990 deaths from police use of force, only one citizen death occurred for every 10 deadly weapon attacks on officers"
"The opinion that these “unarmed” individuals
pose no serious safety risk ignores the fact that 1 out of every 5 people murdered in 2014 was
beaten or strangled to death. According to CDC data, of the 15,809 homicides that year, 3,121 of the homicide victims were beaten, strangled, or forcibly drowned. “Unarmed” assailants kill more than 3,000 people each year."
"According to the Washington Post data, 9.3% of those shot and killed by the police (or 93 individuals) were classified as “unarmed.” The Washington Post called individuals “unarmed” not only when the citizen had only his fists as weapons, but also when he had a blunt force weapon such as a club"
"To compare, 11% of officers murdered in the line of duty were killed by someone who was “unarmed,” and only 9.3% of those killed by the police were allegedly “unarmed.” ..Nevertheless, the data reveal that law enforcement officers shoot
and kill “unarmed” assailants at lower proportions than officers themselves are killed by
"African-American men are 14.4 times more likely to die from a traffic accident than from police use of force. Likewise, they are 27.4 times more likely to be murdered than to be killed by the police officer."
"As there are 321,418,820 people residing in the U.S., this means the police across the nation handle about 192,851,292 calls for service each year. As this does not include proactive stops by officers, and informal citizen contacts unrelated to a call for service, we can double this figure to estimate the average number of official police-citizen contacts across the nation each year."This post was edited by GLYC123 on Oct 24 2020 11:28pm