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Oct 24 2020 09:18am
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Dude read your own article. You're making a molehill out of nothing. 1-2 wanting to bring higher charges while vast majority agreed to bring charges that are actually applicable =/= grand conspiracy by prosecutor to let cops of the hook.
Nothing in that article implies that the rest of the grand jurors were fine (or not fine) with the charges that were brought. Only that these two had issues with the conduct of the KY AG. Let's see if any more release statements, now that these two have.
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What exactly is the jury tampering here, be specific?
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First and foremost, jury tampering is a criminal offense that involves
intentionally attempting to influence a jury
in a criminal or civil proceeding or
during a grand jury inquest
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https://study.com/academy/lesson/jury-tampering-definition-laws-examples.html#:~:text=Jury%20tampering%20is%20a%20criminal%20act%20that%20involves%20someone%20intentionally,during%20a%20grand%20jury%20inquest.&text=While%20laws%20vary%20amongst%20the,by%20both%20imprisonment%20and%20fines.
This post was edited by Surfpunk on Oct 24 2020 09:23am
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Oct 24 2020 09:22am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Oct 24 2020 11:18am)
Nothing in that article implies that the rest of the grand jurors were fine (or not fine) with the charges that were brought. Only that these two had issues with the conduct of the KY AG. Let's see if any more release statements, now that these two have.
Read my edit. The super majority agreeing with the prosecutors charges is enough for him to say 'jurors agreed' unless you're on the spectrum and want to split hairs with pointing to one or two people.
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Grand juries do not need a unanimous decision from all members to indict, but it does need a supermajority of 2/3 or 3/4 agreement for an indictment (depending on the jurisdiction). Even though a grand jury may not choose to indict, a prosecutor may still bring the defendant to trial if she thinks she has a strong enough case. However, the grand jury proceedings are often a valuable test run for prosecutors in making the decision to bring the case.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html#:~:text=Grand%20juries%20do%20not%20need,(depending%20on%20the%20jurisdiction).&text=However%2C%20with%20a%20grand%20jury,and%20proceed%20directly%20to%20trial.
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Oct 24 2020 09:30am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Oct 24 2020 11:18am)
Nothing in that article implies that the rest of the grand jurors were fine (or not fine) with the charges that were brought. Only that these two had issues with the conduct of the KY AG. Let's see if any more release statements, now that these two have.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/jury-tampering-definition-laws-examples.html#:~:text=Jury%20tampering%20is%20a%20criminal%20act%20that%20involves%20someone%20intentionally,during%20a%20grand%20jury%20inquest.&text=While%20laws%20vary%20amongst%20the,by%20both%20imprisonment%20and%20fines.
That's not specific, that's the definition. What has this prosecutor done to tamper with the jury specifically?
If he says "From my experience as a prosecutor and based on the details of this case murder charges are not applicable here" and most jurors agreeing after seeing the evidence, do you think that's jury tampering?
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Oct 24 2020 09:30am
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https://apnews.com/article/breonna-taylor-louisville-shootings-kentucky-4936db1c4c4c3844dba1197c89833242
This case of jury tampering by the state AG is about to explode.
Tl:dr Kentucky attorney general told jury not to consider charges on most of the officers then announced later to the public the jury didn't see fit to consider charges on other officers when jurors did but were instructed not to by same AG.
What an ethical failure. I do not think it would be a double jeopardy if the jurors were instructed to be part of a cover up?
I do not think it would be double jeopardy if a new grand jury OR the same grand jury passed down an indictment, because the officers were never in jeopardy in the first place.
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Oct 24 2020 09:31am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 24 2020 10:22am)
Read my edit. The super majority agreeing with the prosecutors charges is enough for him to say 'jurors agreed' unless you're on the spectrum and want to split hairs with pointing to one or two people.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html#:~:text=Grand%20juries%20do%20not%20need,(depending%20on%20the%20jurisdiction).&text=However,%20with%20a%20grand%20jury,and%20proceed%20directly%20to%20trial.
We only have Cameron's statement that the jurors agreed. The statements released by the two jurors contradict that assertion. Now if the rest of the jurors come out and state that they did, in fact, agree with the AG, then you've got a valid point. Until then, you have the word of a man already shown to have misled the public about key parts of the case.
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Oct 24 2020 09:33am
There were no grounds to prosecute a murder case. The AG saved everyone a lot of time and money.
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Oct 24 2020 09:35am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 24 2020 10:22am)
Read my edit. The super majority
agreeing with the prosecutors charges is enough for him to say 'jurors agreed'
unless you're on the spectrum and want to split hairs with pointing to one or two people.
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html#:~:text=Grand%20juries%20do%20not%20need,(depending%20on%20the%20jurisdiction).&text=However,%20with%20a%20grand%20jury,and%20proceed%20directly%20to%20trial.
LMAO, you're obtuse. They did AS THEY WERE INSTRUCTED, not "agreed with prosecutors."
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Oct 24 2020 09:41am
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here were no grounds to prosecute a murder case.
The AG saved everyone a lot of time and money.
You'd think this would be crystal, instead dipshits want to stir the pot with splitting of hairs not caring that what they're doing is actually enflaming tensions.
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Oct 24 2020 09:45am
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How would you know if he is black
? How are you going to assume that man voted for Joe Biden?
the AG of Kentucky? I saw the press conference. you can also use a search engine
you’re the typical biden supporter blaming the black male. surely you want the AG locked up under one of the biden crime bill’s draconian provisions
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Oct 24 2020 09:48am
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the AG of Kentucky? I saw the press conference. you can also use a search engine
you’re the typical biden supporter blaming the black male. surely you want him locked up under one of the biden crime bill’s draconian provisions
Joke went way above your head that time.
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