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Whats the best to run with?

One hand and Stormshield

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two hand Weapon like tomb reaver
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Pvp or pvm?
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Quote (Tarisus @ 18 Oct 2020 20:47)
Pvp or pvm?


both, I am thinking of making something to duel with but if I decide not to I would just use for some pvm
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Quote (EzEmz @ Oct 19 2020 08:49am)
both, I am thinking of making something to duel with but if I decide not to I would just use for some pvm



Pvm
Eth tomb reaver 15/40x2 and zod
Rares might be able to beat it but they are expensive

Pvp
Grief/ss for bm
Botdz for gm

I would look at Ink’s guide for gm
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Quote (Tarisus @ 18 Oct 2020 21:04)
Pvm
Eth tomb reaver 15/40x2 and zod
Rares might be able to beat it but they are expensive

Pvp
Grief/ss for bm
Botdz for gm

I would look at Ink’s guide for gm


thanks man, now just to find me a tomb reaver
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Quote (EzEmz @ 19 Oct 2020 02:49)
both, I am thinking of making something to duel with but if I decide not to I would just use for some pvm


You must have several weapons if you want to do pvp.
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Quote (Tarisus @ 19 Oct 2020 03:04)
Pvm
Eth tomb reaver 15/40x2 and zod
Rares might be able to beat it but they are expensive

Pvp
Grief/ss for bm
Botdz for gm

I would look at Ink’s guide for gm


grief isn't bm as soon as you don't play some stupid melee league
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Quote (EzEmz @ Oct 19 2020 03:44am)
Whats the best to run with?

One hand and Stormshield

or

two hand Weapon like tomb reaver



Never use shield on Wolf Doodoo in PvM.
Your best bet is 2-handers.
Number one - eTomb Reaver, fastest attack possible - 4 fpa.
Second - eBotD GPA or Archon, Glorious axe or Ogre Maul. All give massive raw damage output.
Third - upped ribcracker with shael or 15ias/40ed

I would say the Ribcracker is the optimal weapon. You can get it very cheap and it have decent damage, CB and other useful stats. If you are on a budget use it.

Another cheap fury weapon which can reach 5 fpa - Windhammer or IK Stone Crusher.

This post was edited by GoreRider on Oct 19 2020 12:04pm
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Best pvp items are usually not availeble on the realms:
2 hander: eth selfrepl rare cruel giant tresher 2 soc (4xx ed/40ias/some base ar with 2 x 40ed/15ias jool's) and pb with same stats, however pb might as well be a fool's version as the base dmg is low. Preferable with 5ctc amp in both.
With theese wepons u can have a resiststance problem.

Range is super important. Giant tresher is +4 rangeadder, tombreaver is +3 rangeadder, ba is +2 rangeadder, pb is +1 rangeadder and knife/dagger is +0 rangeadder.

As a general rule:
2 hander: Eth tomb with zod and 2 x 40ed/15ias for 2 hander.
1 hander: bodt ba + stormshield. (however a eth fools ba with 40ias base and 280+ ed with 2 x 40ed/15ias and preferable 5ctc amp hits more and stronger at the cost of 30stats which will have a huge impact on life)

Secondary wepon:
Same as wep I for epic wsg style attacks. <- Not common.
Cta + spirit or sop
Death web + 20/-20 jmod for epic rabies dmg switchbug.

I precast bo and ench, and have dw + jmod at switch. At main i use bodt ba + stormshield or eth tomb.

A special wepon is fury of crescent moon ba which adds 33%ds, 91% OW, 60ias, 209ed which is effective for rabies based wolf's as it grants 100% OW in combi with +2 rangeadder wep and hits relevant ias breakpoint.

Ribby is super in pvm, but is not very effective in pvp. Eth tomb is usally the best for both.

For pvp:
Rabies > Fury
However hybrid is most common.

I use a 68 to 100fcr build, but in a few cases goes lower fcr.
Frw is either 175frw(with 30 not bugged) or 145frw.

For GM fury vs melee a knife gets more dmg than PB due to the fact statbonus is (0,75 * str + 0,75 * str) contra pb stat bonus (1*str).
However a pb need 70ias, and a fanged knife need 75ias(1 shael + 15ias jool)

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 20 2020 08:11am
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Quote (Tarisus @ Oct 18 2020 08:04pm)
Pvm
Eth tomb reaver 15/40x2 and zod
Rares might be able to beat it but they are expensive

Pvp
Grief/ss for bm
Botdz for gm

I would look at Ink’s guide for gm


Yeah, I think a theoretical rare giant thresher with the right rolls and 2 RJOFs is best in slot. I'm basing this off of mad scientist's chart which I found here. Lower number is better.
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/is-eth-tomb-really-all-its-cracked-up-to-be.543945/#post-5358816
DS/CB_________________________________15/40____15/45____15/50____15/60____15/70____15/75____15/85____30/50____30/60____30/65____30/75
Ribcracker "RjoF"_____________________1.50_____1.45_____1.40_____1.40_____1.40_____1.40_____1.40_____1.32_____1.32_____1.32_____1.32
rare Giant Thresher "RjoFRjoF_________1.44_____1.37_____1.30_____1.19_____1.10_____1.06_____0.99_____1.21_____1.11_____1.07_____1.00
eth Ribcracker "Zod"__________________1.54_____1.49_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.36_____1.36_____1.36_____1.36
eth Windhammer "Zod"__________________1.55_____1.49_____1.44_____1.44_____1.44_____1.44_____1.44_____1.36_____1.36_____1.36_____1.36
Ribcracker "Shael"____________________1.56_____1.50_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.45_____1.38_____1.38_____1.38_____1.38
Death Champion Axe____________________1.63_____1.58_____1.54_____1.54_____1.54_____1.54_____1.54_____1.47_____1.47_____1.47_____1.47
eth Tombreaver "RjoFRJoFZod"__________1.58_____1.50_____1.43_____1.30_____1.20_____1.16_____1.08_____1.33_____1.22_____1.17_____1.09

As you can see, with 15% DS/ 85% CB, the rare giant thresher kill time goes down to .99. That's the lowest number I found of any setup in that chart. The eth tomb reaver comes close though with a 1.08 set up.
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