one good page of s&g history is made on amply topic

the secret weapon for zealots is unknown by alot 😁

2H Death Eth Colossus Sword >

Pussyes use shield..

I've been reading about this debate a lot. I know you created a topic about this back in 2018.

I think the best 2h death setup I've seen is Master Zappy's modification of TrollFace's setup (maybe war travelers instead of gores).

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72623039&f=87&p=490055688

What about the dual ravenfrost + ar charms+ demon limb? Wouldn't that solve AR issues on the death setup? And with better AR/damage, you'll be leeching more.

I guess BotD also has 200% ed to undead. Since LoH already gives you 350% ed vs demons, that kind of covers a hole. Now you have extra ed% versus everything except animals. I think that also covers all of chaos sanctuary.

I think it’s better to try different setups in single player with hero editor.
You can wear Andy Face/vampire gaze and use Gores or wear G-face with Wartravs. You will still have 100% DS.
Forty is ok, but enigma gives mobility and since you have reapers merc it’s crucial to repositioning it because with Forty you will kill faster than merc Run to you and procs decrep aura.
I would say it’s a perfect killer, but glass canon and pretty expensive in terms of some gear.

This post was edited by GoreRider on Oct 20 2020 03:24pm

for non-tele melee character might aura pride merc should be taken into consideration as he mostly won't reach enemies before they die but, at least, will provide huge dmg boost

I see, I think maybe Naj's on swap (thanks to Tr0llface for this idea) to tele with fortitude is also an option. Obviously swapping and refilling teleport charges might be annoying.

Great idea! I forgot about Naj.

Tested it with Forty and Naj setup - not an option or be prepared to spend 60-70k after each run to recharge Naj.
Also even with best charms, perf torch, anni you will need to spend like 100 hard points in dex to reach 10k AR. Without it you will have like 6k AR and miss 15-20% of swings.
In addition to this i don't recommend Titan or Semi titan build. Due to low life pool you will be pulled often in FHR. With low AR and Life leech you will be dead in a second.
With same gear Fury Wolf can be full STR and have like 2,7K Health, 13k AR, an TONS more life leech with 4 frame attack.
Doing 4,16 attacks per second with 15k average damage (10-20k after auras on screen) with 2h Death Pala = 62,4K damage in sec or 125k damage after 100% DS.
Doing 5,43 attacks per second with 16k average damage (6-27K after auras on screen) with eTomb Wolf = 86.88 damage in sec or 145k damage after 67% DS
And 50% more CB cant make difference in 20k damage. Also you will miss more often than wolf in every case due to lower AR.

This post was edited by GoreRider on Oct 21 2020 03:31am

Ort + chipped gem + weapon = fully charged and repaired weapon

On topic, are you guys comparing zealots to fury?

This post was edited by Tarisus on Oct 21 2020 04:16am