Quote (slushslush @ Sep 25 2020 05:45pm)
They should gain profs
Not be slowed
To be used passed 3’doormclases
Even if you go 3/3. You have seen the game and have decided if want to spend or not . GPS are status. They have zero value to a person if you are in a pure ls guild.
So U can’t reaally abuse the mq system with minimum invest in “ls gear “
It would be a great update in my opinion.
I know a lot of people in ee and ua will disagree but this suggestion is 100% for the growth of the game
Yeah either way would be fine with me. I definitely agree that this suggestion would help the game grow.
Quote (izParagonzi @ Sep 25 2020 10:25pm)
Can understand, I have deleted items that were decent for starters like 50% (or more) EE charms, weapons, armors (TierIII) and higher tier items with EE / stat because no one is buying, I have tried to improve a set or two, but like my bufcore Int Robe I found, I sold it off because someone was interested in it.
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Anyway... back on topic, if this was introduced, how long would it be before someone makes a
"Starter Training Gear Guide for Beginners"
Softcore Players Only.
This guide is to show you how to get your own set of gear with only using 920fg. You purchase #3, you get into a group run and;
Now you get to level 69 in a group and leave game, then you "Die Hunt for gear" by killing yourself repeatedly until your Experience bar is at the start again.
This seems boring right? Well you are not wrong, but you are in the level (I think 62+) bracket for chances of TierXIV (level 55) items to drop as well as all lower Tier items.
Now always check the "Events" thread for mods that can help improve with finding items, like +X% Drop rate, +X Well and other things... remember to always explore catacombs so you can kill off any EPs that spawn for better gear etc.
Since this has not been tested if a Ladder Resets when you are using "Training Gear" which you purchased, it should roll back to Tier III and all your MQ attempts as well... so you should be back to the of 5 MQ attempts even though you did not even do 1 of them. So you repeat and rinse again and continue hunting gear... also a good way to get your FG back and profit from it.
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Well that is just a little idea of what could happen if the idea was introduced, so this issue would also have to be cleared up because I can easily just delete my bufcore character, make an SC one, pay the 920fg and just die hunt for gear and sell on MP because I don't need mules now since the Trainee Items go up in Tier levels as I climb.
Yeah I mentioned people could death farm. I don't see that as a big deal. If it brings people to the game that would be a success and what this suggestion aims to accomplish. Also, what's wrong with people finding some extra items. Having a few more wellables for sale or more mutables for the muters isn't bad and if they find a few godly items in the process that's a plus for everyone. You know, this is also very possible now and you're not really doing it. Other than being able to start immediately with the suggestion if you spend some time trying to get the equal quality MQ gear it's going to just run you a few hundred FG and then just have a bit of patience to get to that level and you're ready to death farm. It's possible now and no one is really doing it.
The solution to this would also be to degrade the weapon on death, but I don't foresee this being an issue since most people don't even enjoy exploring and having people finding items isn't really a negative.
Yeah if a ladder reset happens then it should reset the gear to T3 and not damage it otherwise it would be frustrating for the people who bought them. Yeah they'll get a few extra levels of play time with them, but once again not a big deal.
Yeah there were some oversights in the original suggestion, but that's also what the discussion is for. I appreciate the feedback, ty.
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Currently if someone decides to try out LS on a whim this is how it goes:
1. log on
2. make a char
3. see a group open
4. say "hi"
5. get asked if they have gear
6. say "no just starting"
7. get told that they should invest in gear before grouping up and get directed to the forums for gear
8. get told to buy some gear first then gets kicked to make room for someone else that oftentimes never comes so the group disbands in the end
9. check the forums
10. make topic
11. bump topic for a few days
12. lose interest without ever having played with others when they realize it's going to take forever to gather a full set.
With this suggestion:
1. log on
2. make char
3. see group
4. "hello im new"
5. get told that there's a pack they can buy on the MP from 290-930 FG to try out the game
6. buy pack that fits their budget
7. climb with a group that was missing a player
8. enjoys game and decides to continue playing or quits because they find it boring, but at least they were able to give it a chance
So in the first scenario the game never really had a chance. Obviously, it's very generalized, but it's not so far from the truth in mu opinion.
This post was edited by Arturo on Sep 25 2020 11:15pm