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Sep 20 2020 12:02am
Quote (Shizmot @ Sep 18 2020 09:19am)
A few things on this build. After going through the guides I noticed some trends and im looking for a little insight on them.

1. Why does no one suggest 5/5 fire facets? I read on one part it only effects fire mastery, is that accurate?

2. HOTO vs Eschutas. They all point to HOTO, is it just for the FCR?

3. Shako vs 2/20/2os circs. Shako you get the extra life and mana but would a circ not be better? Is it just due to the cost/rarity of circs?


And on a similar note. Using mana pots is usually deemed fine for other classes, im assuming for an ES sorc its BM while dueling?

Thanks in advance for the help.


Facets increase all fire spell damage by a %. Fire mastery increases all fire spell damage by a %. They both work the same in terms of increasing fire spell damage. Fire mastery is fire spell that does damage like say for example firewall or fire ball so it would not directly increase any kind of damage on fire mastery.
Fire mastery applies its +% to the fire spells then the fire facet's + % will applying onto all fire spell damage.

hoto or eschuta, it depends what your sorc wants to achieve or what build stats you are trying to aim for. If your sorcs needs the extra resists to max your cap resists or just to stack your resists then people use hoto. Many people who build energy shield sorc builds use hoto for the mana reg and + 15 % max mana as well.
Other people who build pure vit builds or 105 fcr or 200fcr builds who focuse more over pure damage use eschutas. Both hoto and eschutas both give 40 fcr, sop neither one has a fcr advantage over the other. It really depends what kind of build and what fcr breakpoints you are trying to achieve.

Shako or 2 20fcr rare circlet. Again it's about what stats and build you are building or trying to achieve. People building a energy build often use circlets with +2 sorc 20fcr and w/ + mana stats some even have 2 sockets where they may socket perf sapphires for mana, perf rubies for mana or even rare caster jewels with fhr, mana/dex/and or str
People who build 200 fcr builds will use circlets for the 20 fcr. 105 fcr builds, some people will use shako. Again it's all about the stats you are trying to achieve and whether your are 200fcr or not energhu shield or not.

Ya using mana pots in a gm duel is considered bm if you are ES sorc.


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Sep 20 2020 03:49am
Quote (Dkmjang @ 20 Sep 2020 08:02)
Facets increase all fire spell damage by a %. Fire mastery increases all fire spell damage by a %. They both work the same in terms of increasing fire spell damage. Fire mastery is fire spell that does damage like say for example firewall or fire ball so it would not directly increase any kind of damage on fire mastery.Fire mastery applies its +% to the fire spells then the fire facet's + % will applying onto all fire spell damage.

hoto or eschuta, it depends what your sorc wants to achieve or what build stats you are trying to aim for. If your sorcs needs the extra resists to max your cap resists or just to stack your resists then people use hoto. Many people who build energy shield sorc builds use hoto for the mana reg and + 15 % max mana as well.
Other people who build pure vit builds or 105 fcr or 200fcr builds who focuse more over pure damage use eschutas. Both hoto and eschutas both give 40 fcr, sop neither one has a fcr advantage over the other. It really depends what kind of build and what fcr breakpoints you are trying to achieve.

Shako or 2 20fcr rare circlet. Again it's about what stats and build you are building or trying to achieve. People building a energy build often use circlets with +2 sorc 20fcr and w/ + mana stats some even have 2 sockets where they may socket perf sapphires for mana, perf rubies for mana or even rare caster jewels with fhr, mana/dex/and or str
People who build 200 fcr builds will use circlets for the 20 fcr. 105 fcr builds, some people will use shako. Again it's all about the stats you are trying to achieve and whether your are 200fcr or not energhu shield or not.

Ya using mana pots in a gm duel is considered bm if you are ES sorc.


Wrong.

400% from mastery and 20% from 4 (e.g.) facets stack to 420%.
Thats why they are so weak.

This post was edited by Hell_of_Dammed on Sep 20 2020 03:50am
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Sep 20 2020 08:59am
Hoto > Eschutas —-> the real reason you choose Hoto is for the 20 life rep along with the fcr etc. Life rep on a low life pool/high mana pool ES sorc is deadly!
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Sep 21 2020 09:36am
eschuta is bad

so is % dmg on any kind of sorc except maybe a vita fire one or a cold sorc.

just look at the item

40 all resist
oak charges (gives life, protects u from being hit)
20 repl
15% mana

it has everything a sorc needs

while the 20% dmg from eschuta basically just adds 3 fire mastery points and the energy from it doesnt even scale with % mana or bo, eschuta is bad
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Sep 21 2020 09:39am
Quote (DOHtrader @ 19 Sep 2020 18:37)
On a 105% fcr es fire sorc, shako will beat a sorc circ 98% of time. Since you get 40% fcr from hoto + 35 from shield + 20 from arach and 10% from a sorc ammy (for a total of 105), the fcr on the circ would be useless and you would have to pay a very high amount to get a circ that would give you more mana than shako. Some will trade arach for a crafted belt, which imo is not worth it. Just get a cheap shako and socket it with a p saphyr.
Hoto has res, mana%, life rep; that will easily beat the lil dmg boost you get from eshuta
About facets, they are not wort it vs p saphyr/max res runes/gg rare jewels

For a 200% es fire sorc (which isnt a very good build), the sorc circ is needed.


also this only counts if you bug your enigma

the only usable build for a shako sorc is this:

shako cham and one with psaphire
2 sorc 10 fcr 29 str amu high mana and @res
eth sands boots (need these and they will be bugged)
arach
2x soj
frostburn
enigma wyrmhide (must be wyrmhide else cannot bug)
spirit m
hoto40

it's actually quite good, you can get like 1800 life 5200 mana with 21k dmg with this setup and cnbf, although most setups prefer more frw than 65

the good thing is that all of the 65 frw is bugged, so ur opponent sees u running as if you'd have 0 frw and therefore you desnych more


the reason behind the 29 str amu and sands is: 10 base str, 40 from torch and anni = 50, amulet = 79 and shako gives 2 attributes

meaning you'll have 81 str which is enough for ethereal sands, therefore your boots becoming bugged and making sure your enigma wyrm also becomes bugged.
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Sep 22 2020 02:21pm
why do we wanna "bug" enigma?
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Sep 23 2020 06:59pm
Quote (TheN811 @ Sep 22 2020 04:21pm)
why do we wanna "bug" enigma?



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