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Sep 18 2020 01:25am
Is it bow ama forever?

I guess you cant really use grief (-xx% psn res for enemy) because it can proc venom and if my research is correct this caps the duration of the psn to like 0.4 seconds or smthn. Which makes the charms useless.
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Sep 18 2020 01:48am
Poison charms are bad for anyone
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Quote (wupa @ 18 Sep 2020 09:48)
Poison charms are bad for anyone


Why?
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Sep 18 2020 02:26am
only for bowa and bvc vs es sorc or those with alot of rep life
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Quote (Haseo @ Sep 18 2020 10:26am)
only for bowa and bvc vs es sorc or those with alot of rep life


451 over 12
313 over 11
337 over 11
251 over 10
290 over 10
175 over 6
100 over 5


451 * 256 / (12*25) = 384
+
313 * 256 / (11*25) = 291
+
337 * 256 / (11*25) = 313
+
251 * 256 / (10*25) = 257
+
290 * 256 / (10*25) = 296
+
175 * 256 / (6*25) = 298
+
100 * 256 / (5*25) = 204
Sum all bit rate = 2047

Sum all frames:
1. 12*25=300
2. 11*25=275
3. 11*25=275
4. 10*25=250
5. 10*25=250
6. 6*25=150
7. 5*25 =125

Sum all frames / number of scs/sources(jewels inside items is different sources as well)
(300+275+275+250+250+150+125)/7 = 232

For pure item based psn dmg
SumBit rate * average rate = Result

2047 * 232 = 475288 over 232 frames.

475288/256 over 232/25 = 1856 over 9 seconds

For skillbased like venom:
(Venom bit rate + Item bit rate) * Venom duration = Damach. (which basicly means all psn dmg sources is not averaged out, it uses venoms 10frame ( which is 20 frames in hell, 0,8 seconds as long as enemies are stuck on -100plr)

Combining venom and plague or psn dagger and facet or scs:
(Bit rate venom + Bit rate psn dagger + bit rate items) * (frame venom + frame psn dagger) / 256






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Sep 18 2020 03:26am
best use is for troll builds, and probably the best troll build to use them is the townguard sin with enchantress bot
using a glass cannon build quadruple threat of blade sentinel in front of town, whirlwind into town, guided arrow on swap and shadow master- all 4 with enchant and the first 3 with 37x poison charms
whirlwind applies the full value and includes +% / -% poison, guided applies the full value with -% poison, and blade sentinel applies 3/8 the dps but for 37x the duration due to a glitch, making it last 15 minutes on most people

of course, without dupes an inventory of 37x 451 is ludicrously expensive and doesn't exist on ladder, as they only drop at 1:31740 for only nihl/diablo/baal scs
I used to have a perm set, shame I didn't keep either them or my 5% frw scs from expiring

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 18 2020 03:27am
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Sep 18 2020 06:46am
Quote (MongoBarnet @ Sep 18 2020 11:22am)
Why?


Bad dmg and ar
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Quote (wupa @ 18 Sep 2020 15:46)
Bad dmg and ar


true
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