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Jun 30 2020 03:41pm
I've been wanted to write something on transmuting for some time now. My belief is that information, even if speculative can be helpful.

Opinions may differ but, this is an opinion coming from 49 levels in the skill.


1: the only gg items I've muted were done in the first few rolls. (5 or less)

I've rolled some serious gear. The quality of each item is lowered if rolled too many times. Over time, you can see a consistent difference.

2: items have something like an ilvl in comparison to diablo2

I look at shrining in this aspect. You know how you've shrined items at the same level and magical quality and they give different % of Mana and life? I feel there's a correlation in this. I strictly will not transmute anything that has tier 1 or 2 stats on a magical item. If an item has all crap stats but one gg stat. I say let it roll 3x

If you have experience in the skill, feel free to add your own opinions for group discussion😃

This post was edited by JakeTheDog on Jun 30 2020 03:41pm
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This facinates the shit out of me.
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Jun 30 2020 04:04pm
Quote (JakeTheDog @ Jun 30 2020 11:41am)
I've been wanted to write something on transmuting for some time now. My belief is that information, even if speculative can be helpful.

Opinions may differ but, this is an opinion coming from 49 levels in the skill.


1: the only gg items I've muted were done in the first few rolls. (5 or less)

I've rolled some serious gear. The quality of each item is lowered if rolled too many times. Over time, you can see a consistent difference.
2: items have something like an ilvl in comparison to diablo2
I look at shrining in this aspect. You know how you've shrined items at the same level and magical quality and they give different % of Mana and life? I feel there's a correlation in this. I strictly will not transmute anything that has tier 1 or 2 stats on a magical item. If an item has all crap stats but one gg stat. I say let it roll 3x

If you have experience in the skill, feel free to add your own opinions for group discussion😃


I think we should ask nic how many times he rolled the lvl 35 axe that turned into 174 ee xD
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Jun 30 2020 04:47pm
Quote (BWConformity @ Jun 30 2020 04:04pm)
I think we should ask nic how many times he rolled the lvl 35 axe that turned into 174 ee xD



When did that happen?
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Jun 30 2020 04:51pm
Quote (Horadric_Pube @ Jun 30 2020 11:47pm)
When did that happen?


day after the muting change or same day
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Quote (BWConformity @ 30 Jun 2020 18:04)
I think we should ask nic how many times he rolled the lvl 35 axe that turned into 174 ee xD


Bet it's less than 5 :-)
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Jun 30 2020 08:44pm
Quote (JakeTheDog @ Jun 30 2020 08:05pm)
Bet it's less than 5 :-)


Thanks for the input I would love to see others results
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Jun 30 2020 10:18pm
I'll share some of my numbers since the update.

Had a stack of ~1575 Magical T8 essence that I burned through rolling daggers.

Took about 800 tries before I rolled something over 100 EE. At around 800 I rolled a 105 EE Dagger.

About 400 later I rolled a 133 EE Dagger. That was it for all 1575 of the T8.

Rolled a 104 EE T6 Padded Robe within 20 essences.

And the T5 Robe was rolled within 2 Arcane essences.

Was using either 32 or 33 magic luck at the time.

TLDR: It's random.


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Quote (DankeKong @ 1 Jul 2020 00:18)
I'll share some of my numbers since the update.

And the T5 Robe was rolled within 2 Arcane essences.


TLDR: It's random.


So your saying the highest stat for level was rolled within two?

I still see a correlation


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Jul 1 2020 10:07am
Quote (JakeTheDog @ Jul 1 2020 11:51am)
So your saying the highest stat for level was rolled within two?

I still see a correlation


I still see bias :)

e.g. I think I get better rolls within 5 so I only roll within 5.....leads to all my good rolls being within 5.

This post was edited by zoltan-2 on Jul 1 2020 10:08am
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