Quote (dizzle19 @ Jun 8 2020 11:58pm)
I don't understand how people came to believe this. The bible is very specific that when you die you return to the dirt where we came from until the second coming. We get this from Ecclesiastes.
I have heard some people think its because Christ sent some people to heaven. This was very few people that were granted that privilege.
Then 1 Thessalonians tells us " For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. ..."
This is clearly stating as well that the dead are still here on earth. That when Jesus returns to the earth, then the dead will arise.
Another one that bothers me is church being on Sunday in many denominations. The 3rd commandment says "Remember the sabbath and keep it holy".
Exodus says "“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God".
The 7th day is clearly Saturday, not Sunday.
"The Sabbath is “Saturday”—it always has been; it always will be. Neither Jesus' death and resurrection, nor the Gospel of our salvation by faith through grace, nor the doctrine of the New Testament has changed that."
Some also argue that the New testament replaced the Old testament. This was never stated in the bible anywhere. If the words were never spoke by Christ, who thought they had the right to declare that the New Testament replaced the Old?
I think regardless, it is great people are worshiping. But knowing the commandment and the law and blatantly ignoring it, I believe to be a dangerous risk.When we die our bodies do indeed go to Sheol not just the ground. Sheol is to be a very dark place and closes thing ideologically would be Hades. Sheol and Hades are not the same as Hell which I will touch on now.
Hell to me is a place where the flames are so bright and so hot it is literally blinding and there for dark. It is been described as the gnawing and gnashing of teeth. It is like laying in a bed of worms and or maggots. Hell is a place where you and others scream and cry out for help. Yet no one hears you or if they do they care not to answer. Hell is a place where Lucifer himself gets tortured next to you. Lucifer does not do the torturing God does it is His place of punishment. Lucifer tempts us because he does not want to suffer alone.
I always found it odd that the sabbath was considered Sunday. It is said to have use to be Saturday and from my understanding the Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor.
If you or anyone else truly want to follow a more accurate sabbath cycle in my opinion and many others the Lunar Sabbath is probably the most accurate. You can find more about this here
http://www.eliyah.com/lunarsabbath.htmlIt follows the cycle of the moon to base the days and the weeks together and as this article states there are some very compelling reasons. My reasoning is very simple and goes with the first example as we do not know what day God created anything so if we do not know what the first day was how are we to ever know the 7th.
Genesis 1:14 Then Elohim said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years.
This tells me when the moon was created and there for I can use that as a way to tell me which day is the start of the week and which day is the end of the week. It is not just Saturday.
Some will say oh the lunar calendar is inconvenient however if you are true believers it shouldn't bother you at all.
I would never say that The New Testament replaces The Old Testament. With that said Christ did do away with a lot of the out dated rules that The Old Testament had.
According to the Acts of the Apostles, chapter 10, Saint Peter had a vision of a vessel descending upon him full of animals being lowered from heaven (Acts 10:11). A voice from heaven told Peter to kill and eat, but since the vessel contained unclean animals, Peter declined. The command was repeated two more times, along with the voice saying, "What God hath made clean, that call not thou common" (verse 15) and then the vessel was taken back to heaven (verse 16).
At this point in the narrative, messengers sent from Cornelius the Centurion arrive and urge Peter to go with them. He does so, and mentions the vision as he speaks to Cornelius, saying "God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean" (Acts 10:28). Peter related the vision again in Acts 11:4-9.
Most people will believe that in this moment God had made all animals clean and had abolished the food laws.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KashrutIt also is believed that in this moment God had removed the barriers he once erected to separate his people from the surrounding nations.
There are many other things that show evidence that some things not all things have changed with Christ. I could go through a lot of them however it would require time and devotion on my part so that I could correctly reread The New Testament to give a more accurate statement. I do not memorize scripture as I think a lot of the people who know scripture by heart barely live by it or are ones who cherry pick which ones are important and then throw away the rest. It is also foolhardy to quote 1 part of scripture that then gets thrown out of context because it is missing other scriptures. I did quote scripture but merely for educational purposes and I encourage anyone and everyone to see what I did quote and go back and read the entire passages as as a whole it is important.
This post was edited by Theology on Jul 12 2020 01:09am