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Jun 3 2020 10:35am
should i wait for the xt refresh from amd or go with the new 10th gen cpus from intel?

if i go with intel i'll be using the i7 10700k

here is the partpicker list ive mocked up if i go with intel:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VQKHTC

This post was edited by Baron on Jun 3 2020 10:39am
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what do you have now?
if streaming/editing AMD. If strictly gaming intel.
no new major leaps till 2022 when intel drop 7nm.
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Quote (King Atrhur @ Jun 4 2020 12:46am)
what do you have now?
if streaming/editing AMD. If strictly gaming intel.
no new major leaps till 2022 when intel drop 7nm.


strictly gaming, maybe some light multitasking nothing major. ah interesting thanks didnt know there would be no major leaps till 2022
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strictly gaming, maybe some light multitasking nothing major. ah interesting thanks didnt know there would be no major leaps till 2022


I'm over here with an 8 year old pc just patiently waiting for them both to get their shit together.

Get thermal grizzly kryonaught paste.
For memory try and get 3200mhz with lower then 16CAS as it will outperform lets say 3600 at 16
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Quote (King Atrhur @ Jun 4 2020 01:06am)
I'm over here with an 8 year old pc just patiently waiting for them both to get their shit together.

Get thermal grizzly kryonaught paste.
For memory try and get 3200mhz with lower then 16CAS as it will outperform lets say 3600 at 16


ah i see lol, my current build is like 4 years old but nothing on ur 8 year old build. will do on the memory thanks for the tip and will switch out the paste as well!

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Are you wanting to build a $2000 build, or want a good gaming experience? Because if you've got 2k to spend this isn't a bad build, but you can save a lot of money for only slightly worse performance. (like save 25% and only see a 5% decrease) You're way into the diminishing returns end of the spectrum, but if you want the highest end you can buy that's fine.

The CPU and motherboard are pretty overkill. They're not bad if you're looking to upgrade your graphics card only in a few years, but if you're not looking to future-proof your system for an upgrade in 2-4 years you can save a lot of money by getting a lower CPU and a 2070 super.

Also, you should add a HDD for bulk storage. I see you only ave a 500gb SSD, and the one you have is pretty good, but games are already huge and only getting bigger so you should get a 1+Tb HDD for bulk storage.

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Are you wanting to build a $2000 build, or want a good gaming experience? Because if you've got 2k to spend this isn't a bad build, but you can save a lot of money for only slightly worse performance. (like save 25% and only see a 5% decrease) You're way into the diminishing returns end of the spectrum, but if you want the highest end you can buy that's fine.

The CPU and motherboard are pretty overkill. They're not bad if you're looking to upgrade your graphics card only in a few years, but if you're not looking to future-proof your system for an upgrade in 2-4 years you can save a lot of money by getting a lower CPU and a 2070 super.

Also, you should add a HDD for bulk storage. I see you only ave a 500gb SSD, and the one you have is pretty good, but games are already huge and only getting bigger so you should get a 1+Tb HDD for bulk storage.


im basically building this system to last for as long as possible ive been saving to treat myself with a high end pc for my birthday. i might go with a 2070 super tbh nothing is confirmed just planning out atm. also i have 2 x 2tb hdd that i'll be using for my main storage so no worries there.
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Quote (Baron @ Jun 3 2020 01:40pm)
im basically building this system to last for as long as possible ive been saving to treat myself with a high end pc for my birthday. i might go with a 2070 super tbh nothing is confirmed just planning out atm. also i have 2 x 2tb hdd that i'll be using for my main storage so no worries there.


AMD also has 4th gen PCIe which might be better for the future. But if you want the best possible you should probably wait. I think the new 3000 series video cards are gonna drop in September-October-ish, so if you want the best performance possible it would be worth it to wait and buy the next gen stuff. Additionally Ryzen 4 might be out then, but if not the XT refresh should be a pretty good buy that's very competitive with Intel's top offerings on gaming.
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if you want "future proof" air quotes, amd gpu is the way to go imho.
Nvidia puts their cards into "legacy" category and stops driver support very quickly, AMD offers driver support for new features long after you buy it. Yes you will have more 'horsepower' getting a high-end nvidia card but it hardly matters if in 2 years you get an error about missing the latest shader model or directx iteration on launching the newest title. I think people overestimate the importance of gpu in gaming overall, the most important thing is that the game runs in the first place, you can tweak resolution or use upscaling, adjust your graphical settings, etc. basically indefinitely until it's smooth. A cpu bottleneck there is very little you can do about except get a new cpu, so I recommend to invest in a good cpu first and foremost, don't cheap out. We're nearing the end of "big core" computing as Intel moves inevitably towards Golden Cove/Gracemont BIG.little core configuration and AMD will surely follow suite along with multi-threading in software as a whole, so a few extra big cores now will pay dividends later on in being "future proof", although you will have an extremely inefficient chip compared to the newest ones coming out, it will at least perform decently.

That's just my opinion. Grab a 5700xt and the best cpu you can and accept lowering graphical settings later on for the gpu, which still isn't even that bad as it's nearly equivalent to an rtx 2070 just with the promise of better future driver support.
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