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Wonder why the Ffm guys at Classic Softcore Ladder fall through the filter. Exping since 16.06.2020 01:02:14, extremely constant with a short break according to your data.
Beside Ffm guys, top 20 looking quite well to me as classic only player.

Otherwise, great project! Keep improving the system :thumbsup:

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Looks really nice, but one question..

When you go into statistic of most of the characters, you can see that almost all of them create games every 22-23 minutes. Is that a mistake?
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Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Jun 17 2020 03:46pm)
Wonder why the Ffm guys at Classic Softcore Ladder fall through the filter. Exping since 16.06.2020 01:02:14, extremely constant with a short break according to your data.
Beside Ffm guys, top 20 looking quite well to me as classic only player.

Otherwise, great project! Keep improving the system :thumbsup:


Well if you look at their char statistics they tend to make bigger breaks. Which seems pretty legit to me. https://d2info.com/chardetail/Ffm_Hestia/1000
You are still right that they are pretty active in last time. You and everyone else can tell us if there is a potential bot - like a report - and we will check that.
For such cases we do manual flagging, if we can proof someone is a potential bot via statistics or other ways.

Please note that we run our bot detection from time to time, so even late behaviour changes from players will be taken into account.

/e: Oh and thanks for your feedback man :) Good to hear the ladder list we put up is kind of realistic and not completely wrong

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Looks really nice, but one question..

When you go into statistic of most of the characters, you can see that almost all of them create games every 22-23 minutes. Is that a mistake?


We don't track the time player created games. We do ladder list cycles to check the whole ladder (kind of like a snapshot) and store the data in our database.
With these information, we can check if some player made constant (or close to constant) xp progress and flag them.

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Well if you look at their char statistics they tend to make bigger breaks. Which seems pretty legit to me.




first graph shows a legit player, doing pub cs runs. They are much quicker and more efficient than shown in the 2nd graph. Even if playing alot and slowly you'll see multiple plateaus, no way of going 24hours straight like that, a human will be quicker/slower at some point.

In 33 hours of the last 36 hours Ffm_Templer gained exp, with 3 hours break after the first 9 hours. Extremely constant low growth rate.

I saw 5 of the Ffm guys are marked as potential bots now. The one shown here isn't marked as potential bot yet.



last is also a legit classic players exp chart, with more similar level, that expd for about 12 hours yesterday. I think the difference is obvious.

€: no criticism, just want to help improving accuracy

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https://i.ibb.co/PYG62P1/EXP-Chart-d2.jpg

first graph shows a legit player, doing pub cs runs. They are much quicker and more efficient than shown in the 2nd graph. Even if playing alot and slowly you'll see multiple plateaus, no way of going 24hours straight like that, a human will be quicker/slower at some point.

In 33 hours of the last 36 hours Ffm_Templer gained exp, with 3 hours break after the first 9 hours. Extremely constant low growth rate.

I saw 5 of the Ffm guys are marked as potential bots now. The one shown here isn't marked as potential bot yet.

https://i.ibb.co/FnSMzvq/Unbenannt.jpg

last is also a legit classic players exp chart, with more similar level, that expd for about 12 hours yesterday. I think the difference is obvious.

€: no criticism, just want to help improving accuracy


I see your point there, but still i'm not convinced. We have legit players in our guilde who farmed more in last time than this guy (play/break ratio).
We can continue the discussion via pm :)
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