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May 15 2020 01:18pm
Quote (Hasted @ 15 May 2020 14:51)
-815 is a lot and would quicken clear times depending how much physical damage you're puttin' out

might wanna consider no valk build. jab + heavy passives + inner sight
in your 8 player runs valk is pretty much irrelevant


see previous edit and the following
plugged some numbers into skill calc (assuming lvl 90 char + all skill quests and (+8) all skills for gear)

20(28) Jab
Attack: +253 percent
Damage: +66 percent
Mana Cost: 8.7

20(28) Inner Sight
Duration: 116 seconds
Enemy Defense: -1415
Radius: 13.3 yards
Mana Cost: 5

20(28) Critical Strike
72 percent chance [to do double damage]

1(9) Slow Missiles
Duration: 60 seconds
Ranged attacks slowed to 33 percent
Radius: 13.3 yards
Mana Cost: 5

1(9) Penetrate
To Attack Rating: +115 percent

13(21) Dodge
56 percent chance [to dodge a melee attack when attacking or standing still]

13(21) Avoid
66 percent chance [to dodge enemy missiles when attacking or standing still]

13(21) Evade
56 percent chance [to dodge a melee or missile attack when walking or running]


seems to me like this would poke the fuck out of a hell cs, but may need to concede some skill pts for resistances/defense
no fucking around with valks/decoys, just run around and poke shit, casting inner sight and slow missile

will inner sight or slow missile be overridden by nec curses?
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May 15 2020 01:26pm
Is really bad and slow
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May 15 2020 01:27pm
A jabzon is just like a kicker (low phys dmg) with no traps to kill packs faster, or like a weak zealer or frenzy baba with no auras or weapon masteries. So its normally a poor char that kills mobs 1 by 1 and so slow.

The best use for jab is to kill uber mephisto with any javazon for pvm/ubers.
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May 15 2020 01:28pm
Bring fanadin with you
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May 15 2020 01:34pm
Quote (andrasdream @ 15 May 2020 15:26)
Is really bad and slow


probably. but a dog turd on a stick would be able to kill with max bo + max chant + max conc + amp in my pub chaos runs
just poking around (pun fully intended) for a fun/unique build to play around with next

Quote (Wisteria @ 15 May 2020 15:27)
A jabzon is just like a kicker (low phys dmg) with no traps to kill packs faster, or like a weak zealer or frenzy baba with no auras or weapon masteries. So its normally a poor char that kills mobs 1 by 1 and so slow.

The best use for jab is to kill uber mephisto with any javazon for pvm/ubers.


ignoring this comment because this is classic son and you smell like an ezpac player through and through
maybe it's just the feet stink... ezpac and foot odor have very similar quality

Quote (andrasdream @ 15 May 2020 15:28)
Bring fanadin with you


would help yeah

This post was edited by darjkeel on May 15 2020 01:35pm
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May 15 2020 01:42pm
Where you gonna get +8 skills?
I think leach rings would be better than sojs.
Your build looks good but you might as well put 1 in decoy and valk it is only 2 skill points.
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May 15 2020 02:00pm
Quote (vonhizzle @ 15 May 2020 15:42)
Where you gonna get +8 skills?
I think leach rings would be better than sojs.
Your build looks good but you might as well put 1 in decoy and valk it is only 2 skill points.


not sure about gear yet, but + skills will likely be at least 4, at most 8
you're probably right about the rings
i could shave points off dodge/evade/avoid to get 1 in valk and decoy but my lazy ass would probably forget to cast them anyway

gear would probably wind up something like:
+2 zon 40ias lance
+2 zon pris etc ammy
10fhr ed 20+life res res grim helm
24fhr 20+life res res -req ornate plate
death's hand+sash/sig glove+belt
two melee res mod rings
30frw fhr dex res res res boots
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May 15 2020 02:51pm
Quote (darjkeel @ May 15 2020 09:34pm)


ignoring this comment because this is classic son and you smell like an ezpac player through and through
maybe it's just the feet stink... ezpac and foot odor have very similar quality



I dont play d2, dunno what ezpac is, and did not realize it was classic sub forum tbh...

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May 16 2020 02:07pm
Great lance. I’ve got a jabber now, with a junk lance.
I’ve found that cb, and cold damage help quite a bit. Also, I tried power strike because of the big ar boost.
The biggest problem is getting swarmed. I use a valk so she can handle the mob and I poke them one-by-one.
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May 18 2020 06:41pm
If you talk about "clearing CS" then you should remember that Jab-amazon will struggle in river of the flames - to those monsters that spawn other monsters. You basically can kill one at a time, while the bugs lay more legs than you can kill..
If you manage to run around them, I think you can clear CS in a player 1 game.

But if you want to go through the game with Jab it simply will feel slow and bad.

I tried a fend-amazon and never finished her. Fend is bugged (cannot use dodge/evade/avoid) and it feels quite disappointing - even if it hits few enemies, it is slow. Jab is actually not that bad, but only single target.

Dont assume +8 skills, you need to cover your rest to 75% and get decent leech.
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