Without Covid I think Trump wins this easily just by virtue of being an incumbent. It's incredibly difficult to unseat a sitting president.

It is difficult to unseat an incumbent but his approval/disapproval hasn't changed much AT ALL: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

The GOP got their ass handed to them in 2018 b/c the suburbs switched over. Remember, Biden only needs to win a couple of the rust belt states to win. The rest is icing on the cake.

I agree, but not so much because of the value of incumbency, rather because Biden is just an anemic candidate.

Without covid, Trump could have campaigned on a strong economy, his Middle East peace deals would have gotten far more attention, probably also the Hunter Biden pay to play stuff. And Trump could have held his huge rallies all campaign long. By contrast, Biden would have needed to sell the public on why the vision for America that he offers is actually better than Trump's. He would have had to convince America to boot the president overseeing record low unemployment and no major wars. I just dont see how sleepy, milquetoast Joe should have accomplished that. Instead, thanks to covid, Biden only needed to sit on the sideline and watch Trump self-destruct, a role for which he was the perfect candidate. Also, the lack of enthusiasm for Biden and his campaign would have become painfully obvious on the campaign trail. Coupled with Trump's built-in edge in the Electoral college, Biden wouldnt really have stood a chance imho.



The thing is, Trump has the ability to get a lot of low-turnout rural whites out of the woodwork who will only show up for him, similar to what Obama did with blacks. And 2018 was a year which saw a big gap in enthusiasm. I wouldnt overrate it. Also keep in mind that Trump only needed to win one of the three midwestern blue wall states, assuming that he can hold the rest of his 2016 states. (Which would imho have been easy with record low unemployment, no wars and some foreign policy achievements.)

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I disagree pre covid

I think he would have kept low socioeconomic class and lot of the rest of the country would have voted with their pocket books in mind. Biden represents stability which wasn’t needed as badly pre covid

agreed, but stability for biden meant locking up non-violent criminals for life. Trump passed bipartisan criminal justice reform to counter biden’s way.

i’d rather avoid going back to back to biden’s way.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?477307-1/tony-bobulinski-statement-hunter-biden

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1319660009945468930

“220 million died in last few months” per the harris/biden campaign

RIP everyone who has died from tax cuts, net neutrality, tpp deal, trade deals, and ‘russiagate’ again

1 million deaths from old age we have to have a national mandate outlawing death.

We should trust all of government spending (and our healthcare) to these highly competent politicians who know the difference between a thousand and a million!

Update on the crazy pedo kid who wanted to kill Joe Biden. Arrested in May I believe, and reported on just the other day for whatever reason...

Someone who knew him from a gaming community, who he eventually ended up stalking IRL did a little e-interview earlier.

Quick verison of the convo:

Guy who he stalked lived in CA. Apparently he took a cross country trip from NC to this guys house, and visited sites of mass shootings along the way.
Hes the ultimate Bernie or buster. Not necessarily hyper politically motivated, but was a borderline schitzo super anti establishment, burn it all down type. Pitched the idea of killing Joe as a way for Bernie to still win.
Got ousted as a pedo, a racist, and just a general psycho by all the different gaming communities he burned through. This guy reached out to him on discord to see if he was mentally okay. Then he started stalking him.
Also was another 8chan poster, surprise surprise.