The Benghazi investigation was quite fruitful. It determined that the State Department had failed to fulfill it's obligations at all levels. They failed to adequately secure a foreign embassy, ignored repeated requests for additional security, failed to authorize the pentagon to act in defense of American lives even though multiple assets could have responded within an hour, let alone 13, and ultimately gave the reasons why 4 Americans died when they shouldn't have. Also highlighted that it was Khadaffi loyalists who bugged out the survivors, and without those Khaddafi loyalists, there would likely be 30 more American corpses littering Libyan soil. A large number of reforms were applied to the State Department as a result of the investigation, and the State Department now undergoes a much higher level of scrutiny.

"Russiagate" was based on a lie, a false document that was paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign, and even though 90% of what was in the dossier was verifiably false and proven to be so, it was also used as the excuse to get a FISA warrant to spy on the conversations of an American citizen being targeted by the Obama Administration in an attempt to discredit that individual, who was illegally unmasked as well.

Attempting to compare an investigation that was requested to determine why an American Embassy was destroyed, an American Ambassador, a Tech Consultant, and 2 Security Specialists were murdered, a CIA Base was overrun, and all without any kind of State Department support or intervention or even authorization from the State Department to the Pentagon to intercede to an investigation that arose from "foreign intelligence" that was PAID FOR by a political committee and a campaign committee and huge portions of it were KNOWN to be completely false and nearly everything that was left was unverified and/or unverifiable is completely moronic.

And convictions on crimes unrelated to Russian Collusion are not a "win" for an investigation into Russian Collusion.

Do better.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 28 2020 10:15am

Benghazi was the most successful Republican fund raiser of all time. They really capitalized on and cashed in on those deaths.

I think Issa alone raised a billion dollars with those mail out envelopes asking people to pitch in to investigate HRC on Benghazi lol, how shrewd. Way better than a Nigerian Prince.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 28 2020 10:22am

To the best of my knowledge, the House Select Committee's investigation was never into HRC. The investigation was into the State Department. In fact, I don't even recall a single mention of HRC in the report. May have to go back and read it again to be sure, but pretty sure not.

Maybe you're thinking about something else?

The fund raiser was about arresting HRC over Benghazi. It didn't have to be true for them to raise a billion dollars with it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/117713/darrell-issas-benghazi-fundraising-how-his-campaign-grew-rich

Period article about Issa killing it with this fundraiser.

Billion was hyperbole, it was only millions and millions lol.

That's what the investigation was all about. Rather what they did with it. So noble lol.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 28 2020 10:34am

What does that have to do with the House Select Committee? That was headed by Trey Gowdy. Issa was part of a different committee, raising funds for different things. If he used the "Benghazi!" rallying cry, so what? What's that have to do with the House Select Committee on Benghazi, which Issa was never on?

You seem to be quite learned about Benghazi. Can you tell me what the sixth investigation found that the previous five did not?

How about the lack of a congressional investigation into how the first successful foreign-planned attack on America since 9/11 succeeded under Trump/Pompeo? Pompeo drove several Benghazi investigations... I’m sure he’d welcome an inquiry as to how so many Saudi-born immigrants with Al Qaeda ties and a history of anti-American statements and activities made it into training on a U.S. base. Don’t we owe it to the families of the murdered soldiers to investigate that?

This post was edited by Interesting on May 28 2020 12:06pm

The house select committee was put together to further investigate after judicial watch managed to get a slew of related State Department documents and emails that they had not released to prior committees upon request. They found a lot of additional information regarding Benghazi. But if you want me to detail 800 pages worth of findings for you, you're insane.

And you'll have to specify which terrorist attack you're referring to. There have been 81 terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001. I thought for a moment before I finished reading you might be referring to the Boston Marathon Bombing since you specified "first successful foreign-planned attack". But since you then specified Trump/Pompeo, I just don't know what you're talking about. There have been many attacks. Can you boil that down a bit more for me?

Edit: Note that the State Department's specific duty is foreign policy, foreign affairs, and insuring the safety of American diplomats and civilians in foreign nations. So when Embassies are destroyed, ambassadors murdered, and CIA bases that're attempting to protect the Embassy survivors are overrun by the same people immediately after, that's something the State Department should be all over like flies on shit. And in a real way, not talking about some video or protest that didn't happen.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 28 2020 12:22pm

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-trump-losing-among-voters-who-dont-like-him-or-biden/

Pretty big in what should be a very close election. Every edge matters.

Like the article says, the set of voters who dislike both candidates will look very different in 2020 from 2016. They explicitly say that an unusually high number of Republicans were disliking Trump in 2016, so them coming around to him in the end wasnt actually that surprising. Since then, most of them have either made their peace with Trump, or left the GOP altogether.

I think most of this realignment is already captured by presidential polls where Biden has been holding on to a steady ~6 point lead over Trump since early-2019.

6 points is pretty significant. Here's hoping they don't hubris it away like last time.