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Jan 23 2020 05:13pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 23 2020 05:11pm)
I'd rather lose a finger than a hand. With Bernie, we will lose our whole fucking arm.


You sound like the kids in my class in 2008 when obama was elected
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Jan 23 2020 06:16pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 23 2020 03:13pm)
You sound like the kids in my class in 2008 when obama was elected


Yea, I'm not actually worried so much about Bernie doing anything compared to Warren since he has proven that he can't form coalitions. I'm more worried about the fabric of the country if you swing from far right to far left.
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Jan 23 2020 07:17pm
Quote (thundercock @ 23 Jan 2020 17:16)
Yea, I'm not actually worried so much about Bernie doing anything compared to Warren since he has proven that he can't form coalitions. I'm more worried about the fabric of the country if you swing from far right to far left.


This is what's probably going to happen.

Obama being Black radicalized the Right, which in part resulted in Trump.

After 8 years of Trump radicalizing the Left, we'll probably end up with a socialist like AOC.
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Jan 23 2020 07:25pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jan 23 2020 08:17pm)
This is what's probably going to happen.

Obama being Black radicalized the Right, which in part resulted in Trump.

After 8 years of Trump radicalizing the Left, we'll probably end up with a socialist like AOC.


Should we not vote for a phenomenon like Obama because the South will rise again though?

I do not like being consequential and reactive though :(
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Jan 23 2020 07:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Jan 23 2020 04:49pm)
Yang is a declared enemy of the 2nd amendment.


Not true. Yang supports our rights to bear arm more than any other democrat in this country today. He is supporting universal background checks while allowing US citizens having the rights to bear arm. I'm sure he even supports concealed carry too though he never mentioned that yet.
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Jan 24 2020 04:56am
Quote (OrDe @ Jan 23 2020 07:46pm)
Not true. Yang supports our rights to bear arm more than any other democrat in this country today. He is supporting universal background checks while allowing US citizens having the rights to bear arm. I'm sure he even supports concealed carry too though he never mentioned that yet.


You don't get to call yourself a supporter of the 2nd amendment when you promote the policies Yang does.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/gun-safety/

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As President, I will...
Close the gun show and Charleston loopholes, requiring all gun sales and most transfers to have a background check run and completed.
Implement a purchase limit (rate, not total) on all firearms.
Implement a federal cooling-off period to decrease the incidence of suicide and impulsive crime.
Promote a stringent licensing system, with a 5-year renewal requirement, for gun ownership.
Anyone desiring a license would need to:
Go through a federal background check.
Anyone with a history of violence, domestic abuse, or violent mental illness would not be allowed to hold a license.
Interview with a federal agent, who has limited discretion on granting the license.
Pass a basic hunting or firearm safety class.
Provide a receipt for an appropriately-sized gun locker, or trigger locks (tax deductible).
Individual states will determine their concealed carry/open carry laws, and reciprocity will not be federally enforced.
Create a clear definition of “assault weapon”, and prevent their manufacture and sale.
Prohibit the manufacture and sale of bump stocks, suppressors, incendiary/exploding ammunition, and grenade launcher attachments, and other accessories that alter functionality in a way that increases their firing rate or impact.
Automatically confiscate any weapon that has been modified in a way as to increase its ammunition capacity, firing rate, or impact.
Create an agency tasked with monitoring gun manufacturing developments and addressing “design-arounds” as they arise.
Renew a ban on Large Capacity Ammo Feeding Devices (LCAFDs) and after-market non-standard large capacity magazines.
Pass a federal gun transportation law that will require people to transport guns unloaded and locked in a storage safe.
Increase liability for individuals who sell guns illegally that are used to commit a crime.
Form a commission to study the development of 3D printing technology to see ways we can minimize the risk of this technology in perpetuating gun violence.
Maintain current restrictions on and definitions of automatic weaponry.
Stridently enforce importation restrictions on weapons and accessories.
Create federal safety guidelines for gun manufacture and distribution, similar to federal car safety requirements, with strict penalties for the violation of these guidelines.
Use tax incentives to encourage gun manufacturers to implement designs that prevent interchanging parts that alter the functionality of the firearm.
Repeal laws that shield gun manufacturers from liability.
Invest in personalized gun technology that makes it difficult or impossible for someone other than a gun’s owner to fire it, and ensure that they’re for sale on the marketplace.
Provide a tax credit for the full value of upgrading a gun to use these systems, or work through the buyback program to allow “trades” of non-personalized guns to personalized ones.
Implement a federal buyback program for anyone who wants to voluntarily give up their firearm.
As stated here, invest in a more robust mental health infrastructure. This will help to identify and treat people with mental health illnesses that make them prone to suicide.
Increase funding to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, and drastically increase funding to the US Department of Veterans Affairs Suicide Prevention efforts.
Direct the CDC to research gun violence, and reject any budget deal that includes the Dickey Amendment.
Require all locations where guns are sold to display information on how to receive mental health treatment or reach suicide crisis hotlines.
Initiate and fund mindfulness programs in schools and correctional facilities, which have been demonstrated to reduce violent behavior.
Invest heavily in law enforcement training to de-escalate situations involving firearms, and provide funding to programs that involve mental health professionals in de-escalation situations.
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Jan 24 2020 05:31am
Quote (OrDe @ Jan 23 2020 08:46pm)
Not true. Yang supports our rights to bear arm more than any other democrat in this country today. He is supporting universal background checks while allowing US citizens having the rights to bear arm. I'm sure he even supports concealed carry too though he never mentioned that yet.


Quote (Santara @ Jan 24 2020 05:56am)
You don't get to call yourself a supporter of the 2nd amendment when you promote the policies Yang does.

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/gun-safety/


Sounds like pretty weak support forbade fundamental right of all Americans.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 24 2020 05:31am
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Jan 24 2020 08:14am
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 23 2020 05:11pm)
I'd rather lose a finger than a hand. With Bernie, we will lose our whole fucking arm.


Bernie would take everything but a functioning arm so you could vote for the con artist again.
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Jan 24 2020 08:17am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 23 2020 05:13pm)
You sound like the kids in my class in 2008 when obama was elected


Man, i was at school and I heared "My President is black" by Jeezy on repeat in the dorms. I can still sing that song word for word. It played all week non stop.

Funny part is i went to a school in the midwest in the middle of corn land. 90% of the population was white.

Catchy Song. Best part is no one could name a single policy of Barack's. Amazing what a perceived "cool" presidential candidate can do in the younger crowds based on everything other than their policy.

Kind of scary really.
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Jan 24 2020 11:16am
I wish the other candidates would talk about automation and AI regulation in the future. Not just because 'they took our jobs', but there are some serious problems giving some tasks over to the newer forms of AI. At least the decision tree crap from before was deterministic.

AI is moving into many places FAST, and there is little to no regulation around it. Will our society be ready when AI takes over human positions that are highly regulated? What happens when said AI violates regulation, what is the penalty, who is liable? If we are entering a '4th revolution' as Yang claims, we should have policy ready to address this. IMO, some things should not be automated, or at least not automated with newer machine learning AI. I doubt a machine is going to care about prison time LOL.
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