d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Diablo II > Diablo 2 Discussion > Strategy & Guides > Most Unkillable Budget Hc Pvm Hdin Build
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 2,259
Joined: Oct 14 2019
Gold: 1,400.40
Warn: 20%
Dec 11 2019 11:52pm
Quote (wupa @ Dec 12 2019 04:07pm)
Absolutely no stats are sacrificied for 125 fcr. Please dont confuse newbies. OP wanted safest build


i am the op.
Member
Posts: 8,544
Joined: Jul 7 2005
Gold: 45.00
Dec 12 2019 12:32am
Quote (CFL @ Dec 12 2019 07:52am)
i am the op.


Oh
Member
Posts: 9,905
Joined: Dec 19 2017
Gold: 8.85
Dec 12 2019 01:11am
Quote (wupa @ 12 Dec 2019 07:32)
Oh


:rofl:
Member
Posts: 1,739
Joined: Dec 3 2019
Gold: 3.82
Dec 12 2019 02:01am
def>atk dmg for HC
Member
Posts: 21,345
Joined: May 20 2003
Gold: 6,586.00
Dec 12 2019 04:30am
Quote (pobo2 @ 11 Dec 2019 23:18)
dwarf is not needed either. for what? fire absorb? use hotspurs.


have you got any clue on pvm?
dwarf is kinda BiS concerning mdr.
a decent stack of mdr/pdr will save you most cases (that's why coa suck in pvm and gerke > ss)

Member
Posts: 8,544
Joined: Jul 7 2005
Gold: 45.00
Dec 12 2019 06:13am
Quote (A1RES @ Dec 12 2019 10:01am)
def>atk dmg for HC


No
Member
Posts: 557
Joined: Jan 21 2019
Gold: 0.00
Dec 13 2019 06:21am
Quote (attila @ Dec 12 2019 11:30am)
have you got any clue on pvm?
dwarf is kinda BiS concerning mdr.
a decent stack of mdr/pdr will save you most cases (that's why coa suck in pvm and gerke > ss)


mdr isn't really needed though, especially not in chaos. and if you absolutely want that mdr, get soe, not dwarf.
and no, a decent stack of mdr/pdr won't safe you from huge dmg spikes and these spikes should be the only source of dmg that could end your life. mdr/pdr is nice against normal attacks from white mobs or uniques without dangerous affixes.
it's fun to not even see your life bubble go down with stacked pdr/mdr when monsters only deal 70-100 dmg/attack. but when you encounter fana/amp/extra strong/fast archers/moonies/dolls that deal like 800+ dmg/attack that pdr will do nothing. you need % dam red in those situations.
snakes at nila are an exception because of the way they deal dmg when moving in their poison clouds.

so again... don't focus too much on defense on your equip. going down from 125 fcr to 75 is a bad idea. using hoz instead of spirit is a bad idea. get that def from your merc. delirium or dream that procs confuse is far better defense than you could ever get on your own items. having both holy freeze and defiance aura (defiance merc wearing doom) is huge bonus as well.
Member
Posts: 1,119
Joined: Jul 29 2019
Gold: 13.69
Dec 13 2019 06:40am
Stack life, res and dr. You would want to build for max res under conviction aura and a good amount of DR when under amp damage. Wizzy/coa/stormshield is a viable build for P8 and it would be laughable if you think you can argue this. For a budget build you could get a vgaze instead. It's not the best build, definetly not needed but it's still a good build and what you asked for, your hp will never drop.

This post was edited by lolympia on Dec 13 2019 06:49am
Member
Posts: 21,345
Joined: May 20 2003
Gold: 6,586.00
Dec 13 2019 07:07am
Quote (pobo2 @ 13 Dec 2019 13:21)
mdr isn't really needed though, especially not in chaos. and if you absolutely want that mdr, get soe, not dwarf.
and no, a decent stack of mdr/pdr won't safe you from huge dmg spikes and these spikes should be the only source of dmg that could end your life. mdr/pdr is nice against normal attacks from white mobs or uniques without dangerous affixes.
it's fun to not even see your life bubble go down with stacked pdr/mdr when monsters only deal 70-100 dmg/attack. but when you encounter fana/amp/extra strong/fast archers/moonies/dolls that deal like 800+ dmg/attack that pdr will do nothing. you need % dam red in those situations.
snakes at nila are an exception because of the way they deal dmg when moving in their poison clouds.

so again... don't focus too much on defense on your equip. going down from 125 fcr to 75 is a bad idea. using hoz instead of spirit is a bad idea. get that def from your merc. delirium or dream that procs confuse is far better defense than you could ever get on your own items. having both holy freeze and defiance aura (defiance merc wearing doom) is huge bonus as well.


tell it again to nilha vipers
Member
Posts: 557
Joined: Jan 21 2019
Gold: 0.00
Dec 13 2019 07:07am
Quote (lolympia @ Dec 13 2019 01:40pm)
Stack life, res and dr. You would want to build for max res under conviction aura and a good amount of DR when under amp damage. Wizzy/coa/stormshield is a viable build for P8 and it would be laughable if you think you can argue this. For a budget build you could get a vgaze instead. It's not the best build, definetly not needed but it's still a good build and what you asked for, your hp will never drop.


okay if people keep suggesting stuff like this... this thread is lost, no joke!

Quote (attila @ Dec 13 2019 02:07pm)
tell it again to nilha vipers


read my post #27 again carefully. it stated that out. if you are doing nila runs just switch some items to pdr ones and you are fine. where is the problem? :rolleyes:

This post was edited by pobo2 on Dec 13 2019 07:10am
Go Back To Strategy & Guides Topic List
Prev1234Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll