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Dec 10 2019 12:45am
Quote (kai_jph @ Dec 10 2019 07:03am)
My hybrid bow/psn is built almost the same but I use some Jav lifers for more psn (just my pref) :)


yes, i would maby use like 2 javs sks myself there as that is like 3k each^^
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Dec 10 2019 03:00am
btw would like to add that if u go the plague way on telewolf you can have a death web + 20/-20 jmod as well. you can reach like 55k dmg easily with 70fcr eq and 48k with 100fcr eq. or more if u take the bramble from merc.

This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 10 2019 03:01am
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Dec 10 2019 09:03pm
what would be an alternative for bugbelt on each build?
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Dec 11 2019 12:41am
Quote (E55 @ Dec 11 2019 04:03am)
what would be an alternative for bugbelt on each build?


hybrid ama: nosferatus
tel3zon: nosferatus / dungo

in both cases add res via scs.

wolf: dungo, add res scs

pala: dungo

throwbaba: nosferatus

blizz: arach or craft belt
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Dec 11 2019 02:40pm
Quote (gel87 @ Dec 9 2019 09:09am)
Gel87's Throwbarb
The throwbarb is rather effective vs casters, i cant say its as effective as a bvc, but its very fun :)

Eq:
- Helm: Valk 08 unperm or perm with cham(cheap edition is 20fcr/3soc helm 80/30/cham, but requires 2 x fcr rings
- Armor: Eni or EoD(use eod if No Valk for fhr) wire or Great haubersk, for lower levels AP
- Belt = bug belt
- gloves = 20ias/kb/str/dex/single res(like fire) use Trangs if you got 20/120/45 helm.
- ring 1: 10 fcr/str/dex/ar/dual res(like cr + pr)
- ring 2: Wisp / raven
- boots: upped gores
- ammu: Highlord
- wep side 1 glove side: eth self repl 1/10 ghost glaive with as high ed as possible, best add possible is increase stack.
- wep side 1 boots side: eth Lacherator
- wep side 2: 3wc fanged knife 2 soc, FalFal, 1 with lt and 1 with lr charges.

Invent:
20/20/25 baba Torch
20/20/x annie
Cube(demon limb, 3wc add ammu, 6bo/shout helm, soj, soj)
4 * 5fhr/5@
Rest 322

Skilling:
20 bo
20 double throw
20 double swing
1 natural res, defense, frw, stamina
1 wc
1 battle command
20 throw masteries
10++ leap
Rest shout

Stash: more javs/lacerator/warshrike/wts/good rare res boots

Statting:
Str: 0
Dex: Enought for gear, + adds if want more ar/dmg/defense
Vita: rest

Additional info:
It is super important to wsm bug. If u have ghost glaive at glove side, and Lacherator at boots side, then flash the Lacherator u get - 25 wsm.
This will give you an inzane ias, with good ghost glaive u reach 9-13k dmg and 780-6k on Lacherator when wearing liste eq.
But finding good javs is hard, so there is another way:
Lacherator glove side, warshrike boot side. Then lift eth warshrike. This will give wsm of: -25 as well. The dmg is way lower than ghost glaive, but i got more quanti, 50% more ds and 83% chance to pierce which is godly vs more or less anything, espesially druids. Even though if lacerator hit first and amp all necs and druids are more or less 1 tap from ghost glaive, but u have to bypass 3-6 summons, so vs them i would argue that the piercing setup is better, you also got Enought quanti to be more careless when throwing. Throwbaba spends quanti super fast, its 6,25 attacks pr sec with theese setups.

Tactics:
Jump and kill, chain casters down, use oak as meatloaf, wc for stun, leap for stun.
Vs tankers like hammers and smiters ur usually gonna loose, but i have won a few, if lacerator amp and u get 2 lucky strikes with ghost glaive they can die by 2 tap. Even the good geared ones, Else than that u got good frw, OW and shit, so its worth a try, but u spend to much quanti for this to be much fun xD just avoid BvA as well, u just spend all quanti.
Double throw will not break javs and stuff, as soon as u get 0 quanti it Will imidate stop throwing (double throw that is) and javs wont break.


I've always had a thing for throw barbs, to troll ladder pubs, what is your best setup for ladder?
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Dec 11 2019 03:28pm
Quote (e2z @ Dec 11 2019 09:40pm)
I've always had a thing for throw barbs, to troll ladder pubs, what is your best setup for ladder?


Eth lacherator over gloves
Eth warshrike over boots
Wsm bug them into -25 wsm speed.

20fcr/3soc with: Cham + 2 x 40ed/15ias ---- Coa 2 x 40/15ias or 15@/15ias (see what u need most of dmg and res, 100ar/15ias can be decent as well)
U can also keep a 120/45/20fcr helm and use raven for cnbf in combi with dungo or tg or if wanna use angelics.

Eni AP or Wire depends on ur lvl (str bug)

2 x bo clubs with str.

Upped gores

20ias/kb/adds gloves

10fcr/ar/str or dex/dex or life/resists ring

Wisp - Raven - Dwarf - secondary fcr ring(40fcr break with cham/80/30/20fcr helm) - angelic

Highlord - Angelic - 2/20 ammu(another way of 40fcr break with 45ias helm)

Cube: Demon limb, soj or bk x 2, 3wc ammu, 5 or 6 bo helm, i always keep some other rings as well xD

Torch
annie
4 x 5fhr/5@
remaining res boost via 1 to 5 scs
rest 3max/ar/life scs
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Dec 11 2019 04:04pm
You hit the nail on the head, brother.

This was one of my Amazons that I sold a few years ago. Due to fg constraints, I couldn’t equip her with 2/2/40/444 erep mats Javs as those were used on my Tele hybrid zon at the time. However, with minor adjustments, she was extremely fun to play with. Here is a link for those who may look for an alternative to the build you reference since I was based out of US East. Nonetheless, you are 100% right, the Amazon builds you reference are my absolute favorite. Hope your post encourages others to try something new, as I’m sure many people have not done it all, despite the age of this game. Cheers!
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76223824&f=53
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Dec 12 2019 07:20am
Quote (HeartOfThorns @ Dec 11 2019 11:04pm)
You hit the nail on the head, brother.

This was one of my Amazons that I sold a few years ago. Due to fg constraints, I couldn’t equip her with 2/2/40/444 erep mats Javs as those were used on my Tele hybrid zon at the time. However, with minor adjustments, she was extremely fun to play with. Here is a link for those who may look for an alternative to the build you reference since I was based out of US East. Nonetheless, you are 100% right, the Amazon builds you reference are my absolute favorite. Hope your post encourages others to try something new, as I’m sure many people have not done it all, despite the age of this game. Cheers!
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76223824&f=53


you had some really nice gear on here i can see :)
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Dec 13 2019 03:34am
i would like to add some stuff for wolf:
alternative gear setup:
block setup:
bodt ba 4xx or eth fools ba (3xxed/60ias/fools/add)
+ stormshield (soc 10@/35+lr/adds)
(im fully aware that a eth fools 70ias pb or 75ias fanged knife adds more dps, but due to range its not usuable for anything else than melee duels..) you wont hit palas/babas/amazon well enought with pb/fk

switch:
dw - 55/5/2
jmod 20/-20

this is a nice eq for vs:
bowa
smiter/vt
babas
hammer and foh(use tomb main hand)
the psn switch is good vs any char.
on asgard i got so much physical dmg with amp that i dont skill rabies.

combine with:
2/20/30/adds helm and bk and optional 2/20 ammu.

skill 20rabies/psn creeper
1 how, 1 oak, 1 grizzly, rest oak. (there is not much rest though xD)
20werewolf or split between werewolf and oak.


this adds you like 55k rabies dmg(switchbug) . if u take bramble from merc its more, but then you really need loads of str from rings/fcr ammu/diadem.

This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 13 2019 03:36am
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Dec 13 2019 04:49am
#7 also very fun for pvm ^_^
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