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Dec 1 2019 10:39am
So I'm making a summoner and my skills are basically
Max skele and mastery and working on corpse explosion and 1 into the others. I really wanted to use revives as my main but they wander off and get lost so I find the skeletons as a necessity. I also want to know if there is a better way to get minions started in a new game. My method is using sword back holds open wounds with skewer of krintiz ignore target defense, but it's pretty slow.

Is it worth it to max fire golem, and is there any other tips? I was considering maxing iron maiden, right now its level 1 but it's still helpful on some bosses
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Dec 1 2019 10:44am
Get decent iron golem and amp/decrep for your first kill. Just do it in moor or cold plains.

The issue with revives is kinda unavoidable unfortunately unless you go xpac and get enigma. Lol

Skeles should do fine though with mastery and raise maxed. Just make sure you put some points into sum res too
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Dec 1 2019 02:32pm
Quote (roadtree @ Dec 1 2019 09:44am)
Get decent iron golem and amp/decrep for your first kill. Just do it in moor or cold plains.

The issue with revives is kinda unavoidable unfortunately unless you go xpac and get enigma. Lol

Skeles should do fine though with mastery and raise maxed. Just make sure you put some points into sum res too


I was looking at iron golem but wasnt sure if it was good enough, I'll have to test it with editor and see
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Dec 1 2019 10:32am)
I was looking at iron golem but wasnt sure if it was good enough, I'll have to test it with editor and see



As long as the base item is good enough then yeah
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Dec 1 2019 04:02pm
Quote (roadtree @ Dec 1 2019 01:37pm)
As long as the base item is good enough then yeah


I did some testing and if I had to rank the golems best to worst I'd say

Fire
Iron
clay
Blood

Iron golems thorn damage was underwhelming and easily outshined by iron maiden, so there isnt any reason to level him up, I tried making it with different shopped weapons and armors but didn't notice much difference
I like the idea but fire seamed most useful overall
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Dec 1 2019 04:49pm
blood golem and IM doesn't work anymore ?
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Dec 1 2019 05:50pm
Quote (roadtree @ Dec 1 2019 04:44pm)
Get decent iron golem and amp/decrep for your first kill. Just do it in moor or cold plains.

The issue with revives is kinda unavoidable unfortunately unless you go xpac and get enigma. Lol

Skeles should do fine though with mastery and raise maxed. Just make sure you put some points into sum res too


Skeletons disappear when you switch acts in classic.

What they write above about golems is nonsense.

Classic summoner is: 20 skeletons + 20 mastery, 1 skeleton mages, 1 clay golem, 1 golem mastery, 1 summons, 1 amplify damage, 1+ corpse explosion.
Then you put res points into Bone spear - since Bone spear is the skill you use to get first few kills.
Once you are comfortable with your Bone spear (which you probably arent), 1 bone armor, 1 bone prison, 1 wall - you either add to Bone Spear synergies, then Corpse Explosion and then either mages/summons.
But you will probably be unhappy with Bone spear damage so you put a ton of points there.

This is NOT LOD, so you dont have a merc that gives you first kills. What they wrote about golems above is nonsense, golems cant kill anything after normal mode, they do like 50 dmg on average.
You also dont have act 5 with red portal, where some bodies lie around. Your skeletons dont move acts.
That makes necromancer quite weak. I mean there are some dudes who like the chilled out playstyle, but sadly in classic it is more of a "fight for first body". And without mercenary + his auras the damage is bad in classic hell difficulty.

You get around +9 skills on your necro, that is 1+9 = 10 summons.
Probably you can get a bit less + skills if you want better resists, especially if you try to get Decripify from your wand.

The problem is getting first kills, if you play alone (which sadly is the current state of classic) you need bone spear.

Alternative is to load 2 chars and get first bodies with that other char.

This post was edited by dropship on Dec 1 2019 06:13pm
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Quote (Boogmax @ Dec 1 2019 03:49pm)
blood golem and IM doesn't work anymore ?


Unfortunately not

@ dropship

I'm able to get first body kills with a golem in single player games in hell, act 4 is tough, but ya obviously in multiple player games it's useless

Fire golem seems nice because he can soak up hydra damage at trav and ghoul lord damage, iron golem just isnt scrappy enough in hot battles in my opinion

This post was edited by SagittariusA on Dec 1 2019 07:51pm
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Dec 2 2019 07:13am
Try attract curse maybe.

My hc summoner used bone spear, hewas skilled something like

20 skel
20 skel mastery
20 ce
20 spear
10 amp
1+ prison
1 clay
1 gol mast
1 sum res

I used a +2/3 spear 20 cast magic wand shopped from akara, wormskull, silks, sig shield, sojs, +2 10fcr amu and magefist for max +skills and 50 fcr.
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Dec 2 2019 09:03am
Quote (Boogmax @ 1 Dec 2019 23:49)
blood golem and IM doesn't work anymore ?



maybe bonewall and IM, dunno
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