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Nov 12 2019 12:31am
Let S = {x | x = pa, a E Z, (for all) p E Z+} "a" is a particular integer that is specified.

  • (a) For infinite values of a the cardinality of S is infinite.
  • (b) For infinite values of a the cardinality of S is finite.
  • (c) For finite values of a the cardinality is finite.
  • (d) For no value of a the cardinality of S is finite.
  • (e) For only one particular value of a the cardinality of S is finite.
  • (f) a and b.
  • (g) b and c
  • (h) a and c
  • (i) a c and e
  • (j) For finite values of a the cardinality of S is infinite and (c).


Why is i the answer. More specifically, why is c a valid choice?

When the answer says "infinite/finite values" it means for "number of a's". Not that the value itself is infinite or finite. Apparently there was a lot of confusion about this in class.

Why I don't think c is correct:
For finite values of a the cardinality of S is finite.
My issue with this is that if we consider a to only be 1 value, then the cardinality is infinite as x is composed of a * p where p is all Z+. So if that value was 1, S = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5....}. The only way to get a finite cardinality is if a is 0.
I ended up getting this one right because a and e are definitely the answer and i was the only one that had a and e as a choice.
Nov 12 2019 08:13am
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Maybe instead of "if a takes on finitely many values then S has finite cardinality" they mean "there are finitely many values of a that will give S finite cardinality"

I could be wrong though

This post was edited by Obstacle1 on Nov 12 2019 11:28am
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Quote (Obstacle1 @ Nov 12 2019 11:27am)
Maybe instead of "if a takes on finitely many values then S has finite cardinality" they mean "there are finitely many values of a that will give S finite cardinality"

I could be wrong though


I don't get the difference. a taking on finitely many values and there are finitely many values of a mean the same thing?
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Nov 12 2019 07:21pm
Quote (kasey21 @ Nov 12 2019 08:03pm)
I don't get the difference. a taking on finitely many values and there are finitely many values of a mean the same thing?


That's not what I said. Reread what I put in quotes. Their meanings are not the same
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Nov 19 2019 05:27pm
To clarify:

It is true that "there are finitely many values of a that will give S finite cardinality" because the set of all values of a that gives S finite cardinality only contains one value which is 0

It is not true that "if a takes on finitely many values, then S will have finite cardinality" because if a takes on a single value other than 0, then S will not have finite cardinality

Do you see the difference now? I think your teacher meant for the statement to be the first statement I wrote in this post

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Nov 19 2019 07:32pm
I came here for math, im leaving with no dignity.

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Quote (Obstacle1 @ Nov 19 2019 05:27pm)
To clarify:

It is true that "there are finitely many values of a that will give S finite cardinality" because the set of all values of a that gives S finite cardinality only contains one value which is 0

It is not true that "if a takes on finitely many values, then S will have finite cardinality" because if a takes on a single value other than 0, then S will not have finite cardinality

Do you see the difference now? I think your teacher meant for the statement to be the first statement I wrote in this post


Okay, yeah that makes a lot more sense now. Thanks for the clarification.
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