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Jun 21 2022 01:39am
Blizzard will fuck up this
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Jun 23 2022 09:40am
Quote (Yurihyuga @ Jun 20 2022 01:18pm)
bind on trade is fine IMO as things will retain value and no flipping which was probably the biggest issue with the d3 AH.


Unpopular opinion here : D3 auction house was awesome

here is why :
- people could find any item (no loot targeting for each class like today) and then could sell them to then buy what they actually need
- the monetization was genius : people who used CB to buy items were not taxed, people who sold stuffs were. But withtout the game, no profit would be made anyway
- it was a real answer to other websites like d2jsp, with more secured transactions
- auction was a nice way to get the best value for your goods
- easy way for buyer and seller to meet, unlike d2 where u have to use game name or third party websites

so what went wrong?
- parangon bonus was BS, they basically granted 3% extra gold find with each level, causing massive inflation on top on rewarding gold bots who then could spend there artificial and ridiculous amount of gold on the AH (remember inflation went so crazy they had to increase the number of digits at the AH so that now people could pay BILLIONS of gold for a piece of gear, this is insane lol)
- letting ingame currency increase exponentially is a noob mistake especially with an ingame real world money system to buy ingame gold
- they made stupid patchs who destroyed existing items, making them charsi food whereas people may have been grinding for months or been paying with real world money (hello skorn, mempo and shit). You just cannot destroy itemization from one patch to another when there s a setup economy like it was back then in D3


So yeah Auction House was genuinely a good system. What they did around it was bullshit though.
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Jun 24 2022 01:16pm
Quote (ElonMuskrat @ 13 Jun 2022 05:18)
Games doa


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Jul 23 2022 04:22pm
Beta around the corner and still no mention of trading. Very strange.

Skip to 13:39

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Quote (Fankytore @ Jul 24 2022 12:22am)
Beta around the corner and still no mention of trading. Very strange.

Skip to 13:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l16lLdWErg8



And, btw., were there any serious mentions of itemization? I know about some details like extracting legendary powers but… that’s it? They’ve nothing important to share in this „minor” aspect of an aRPG? :lol:
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Jul 24 2022 07:34pm
Quote (Fankytore @ Jun 18 2022 02:34pm)
Same can apply to pvp, you can see who bought gear.. And players can make special groups of trusted normal pvp players if we want not to have any connection to p2w players.. Its even better that p2w players exsist so you can realize you chara and your worth as a hard grind player even more.


no lol
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Jul 26 2022 01:35pm
Quote (kayko @ 24 Jul 2022 15:45)
And, btw., were there any serious mentions of itemization? I know about some details like extracting legendary powers but… that’s it? They’ve nothing important to share in this „minor” aspect of an aRPG? :lol:


Nothing new on that field also..
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Quote (Hell_of_Dammed @ 2 Nov 2019 05:55)
Fag video.

Items shouldbe bind on equip. Not sure if acc or char bound tho.


God I hate 2005 acct's.
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Aug 5 2022 08:40am
Quote (Mac_Apo @ 23 Jun 2022 17:40)
Unpopular opinion here : D3 auction house was awesome

here is why :
- people could find any item (no loot targeting for each class like today) and then could sell them to then buy what they actually need
- the monetization was genius : people who used CB to buy items were not taxed, people who sold stuffs were. But withtout the game, no profit would be made anyway
- it was a real answer to other websites like d2jsp, with more secured transactions
- auction was a nice way to get the best value for your goods
- easy way for buyer and seller to meet, unlike d2 where u have to use game name or third party websites

so what went wrong?
- parangon bonus was BS, they basically granted 3% extra gold find with each level, causing massive inflation on top on rewarding gold bots who then could spend there artificial and ridiculous amount of gold on the AH (remember inflation went so crazy they had to increase the number of digits at the AH so that now people could pay BILLIONS of gold for a piece of gear, this is insane lol)
- letting ingame currency increase exponentially is a noob mistake especially with an ingame real world money system to buy ingame gold
- they made stupid patchs who destroyed existing items, making them charsi food whereas people may have been grinding for months or been paying with real world money (hello skorn, mempo and shit). You just cannot destroy itemization from one patch to another when there s a setup economy like it was back then in D3


So yeah Auction House was genuinely a good system. What they did around it was bullshit though.


Very good analysis
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Aug 6 2022 06:52pm
Quote (Fankytore @ Aug 3 2022 10:09am)

Could you and friend trade legendary item?

- Nope nor uniques, some yellows cant be either


D2jsp user that got acess to closed beta just confirmed that there is no open trading system, and that best items are boa... Hope that will change in next year. But i doubt...
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