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Imalas
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Jun 16 2022 04:47pm
Quote (ValkryieRangdris @ Jun 16 2022 04:38pm)
after playing thousands of hours of d2, poe, d3, and recently lost ark, ive realized trading for everyone kinda just takes away from enjoying the game. it endorses p2w, bots, playing to make money rather than to enjoy, and just creates this huge gap of the top % of players who whale for best in slot pieces with the players that dont have extra money to spend on buying gear. Yes, they can get lucky, find some good items and trade it, but theyll always be behind a p2w player or someone on jsp with 100k+ fg that can get anything he wants in minutes. Playing d2r again made me realize that, and even though i made 20k+ fg off it I realized that's all i got from d2, i just played to farm fg mindlessly. It's fine for d2r since thats how i always played it since i was a kid, but for d4 maybe trading not being 100% for every single item will be healthier for the game, but idk just my thoughts. I both love and hate trading sometimes its hard to say what's better.


You realize your not forced to trade right ?
ValkryieRangdris
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Jun 16 2022 08:43pm
but as a competitive person, I compare my character to other chars. Levels, gear, damage, pvp performance. Gear relates to all of that, and someone slapping me bc of a full set of gear that they bought thats just better than mine that I didnt buy sort of just ruins the experience lol

This post was edited by ValkryieRangdris on Jun 16 2022 08:43pm
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Jun 17 2022 04:44am
Quote (ValkryieRangdris @ 17 Jun 2022 04:43)
but as a competitive person, I compare my character to other chars. Levels, gear, damage, pvp performance. Gear relates to all of that, and someone slapping me bc of a full set of gear that they bought thats just better than mine that I didnt buy sort of just ruins the experience lol


It doesn’t ruin expirience for me because i can know who bought gear and who did not, when you see almost all items bis on chara after 1 year of playing you know whats about and i don't count that better than my chara who is for example 20 - 30% weaker but it was done regulary trought trading and hard grind.

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Jun 17 2022 12:20pm
Quote (Fankytore @ Jun 17 2022 06:44am)
It doesn’t ruin expirience for me because i can know who bought gear and who did not, when you see almost all items bis on chara after 1 year of playing you know whats about and i don't count that better than my chara who is for example 20 - 30% weaker but it was done regulary trought trading and hard grind.


yes true but none of that matters when you, lets say, go to pvp and that person shows up lol. also pvp is actually rewarding in d4 theyve shown (to get cosmetics), so theres incentive to be able to have a good pvp character. 20-30% weaker because of being f2p just feels like shit in pvp :/
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Quote (ValkryieRangdris @ 17 Jun 2022 20:20)
yes true but none of that matters when you, lets say, go to pvp and that person shows up lol. also pvp is actually rewarding in d4 theyve shown (to get cosmetics), so theres incentive to be able to have a good pvp character. 20-30% weaker because of being f2p just feels like shit in pvp :/


Same can apply to pvp, you can see who bought gear.. And players can make special groups of trusted normal pvp players if we want not to have any connection to p2w players.. Its even better that p2w players exsist so you can realize you chara and your worth as a hard grind player even more.

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Jun 18 2022 10:16pm
free market please
ravenette
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Jun 19 2022 09:36am
I personally like D2's trading system just fine. The only improvement I would make is that only characters who participated in killing the monster can pick up the loot. That way the leecher can't just steal right out from under the person's nose.
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Quote (Hell_of_Dammed @ Nov 2 2019 04:39pm)
Doesnt change anything. You asked for ideas and now you insult me on telling mine, thank god you are just a bad troll in a forum.



Hopefully you stop posting forever sooner than later.

Please disappear and anything that has a hint or memory of you as well.
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Jun 19 2022 05:08pm
Quote (AlphaofAlphas @ Dec 9 2019 12:15pm)
I preached for free trading for the longest time but after listening to blizzards actual reasoning behind I can support the following as well:

Bind on trade
Bind on equip.

I personally believe bind on trade would work better than boe.

If anyone actually cares about trading then go on the forums and speak. The diablo team is actually listening, trading is not set in stone currently.

The only thing that is 100% is that it will not be free trading, so people should stop wasting time and breath and start trying to advocate for the next best option.


Has this actually been stated by the devs or Blizz? "The only thing that is 100% is that it will not be free trading"

If that's the case, and Blizz did make this announcement, then you just saved me $60.
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Jun 20 2022 05:18am
bind on trade is fine IMO as things will retain value and no flipping which was probably the biggest issue with the d3 AH.
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