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Massous24
#91 Oct 14 2019 06:05pm
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Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 14 2019 08:02pm)
Alias: a false or assumed identity.

Also Burton created the name in reference to Jack Nicholson and the dude who played Alfred in the Adam West series, like 50 years after the character was created, saying that is his true origin is just a joke.


assumed identity. Burton didn’t create jack napier LOL.

Goodnight
Massous24
#92 Oct 14 2019 06:05pm
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Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 14 2019 08:04pm)
You've either never actually read the killing joke, or you Everett missed the point of it.


Why? Was what I said not true ?
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#93 Oct 14 2019 06:06pm
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Where else was the name Arthur fleck used for the joker before this movie?


:rofl:

This right here is why I said you can't read. Have you bothered a single response that anyone here has written, or do you just immediately start typing about how wrong we are?

Quote (Massous24 @ Oct 14 2019 05:05pm)
assumed identity. Burton didn’t create jack napier LOL.

Goodnight




"The reason behind the creation of the Jack Napier name is because of how Tim Burton decided to handle the Joker's origin in 1989's Batman"

That's your second laughably false statement in a row, want to try for a third?



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Massous24
#94 Oct 14 2019 06:07pm
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Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Oct 14 2019 08:06pm)
:rofl:

This right here is why I said you can't read. Have you bothered a single response that anyone here has written, or do you just immediately start typing about how wrong we are?



I replied and asked you a question? Are you serious? You can’t be answer it so you continue to beat around the bush. Get out of here you shouldn’t be allowed to post anymore.
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Quote (Massous24 @ Oct 14 2019 06:05pm)
assumed identity. Burton didn’t create jack napier LOL.

Goodnight


Assumed as in not original. Also yes he did, literally a 2 second Google search can confirm.
Massous24
#96 Oct 14 2019 06:11pm
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Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 14 2019 08:07pm)
Assumed as in not original. Also yes he did, literally a 2 second Google search can confirm.



Ok you are right- he did make that name up- but I have seen it in the comics and animated series- it wasn’t a one time thing. Regardless they all had the same backstory
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#97 Oct 14 2019 06:11pm
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Quote (Massous24 @ Oct 14 2019 05:07pm)
I replied and asked you a question? Are you serious? You can’t be answer it so you continue to beat around the bush. Get out of here you shouldn’t be allowed to post anymore.


Arthur Fleck came from the Killing Joke, Blah and I have both mentioned that multiple times.

Jack Napier was created by Tim Burton. A quick Google search can confirm both of these facts.


Two painfully false statements in a row and yet you'll still say I'm wrong, because that's all you've done this entire time. You ignore facts and say I'm dodging your questions, when I've answered them over and over. I'm just tired of talking to you like an equal, it's never going to get us anywhere, so I'm treating you like a child now.

Quote (Massous24 @ Oct 14 2019 05:11pm)
Ok you are right- he did make that name up- but I have seen it in the comics and animated series- it wasn’t a one time thing. Regardless they all had the same backstory


Which is what we've been saying the whole time. The other references are either non-canon or a nod at Tim Burton's movie. The Joker has no official origin story, that was the whole point of the *debate*

It's good to see that you're capable of admitting fault, even if it took this fucking long.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Oct 14 2019 06:12pm
Massous24
#98 Oct 14 2019 06:13pm
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Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Oct 14 2019 08:11pm)
Arthur Fleck came from the Killing Joke, Blah and I have both mentioned that multiple times.

Jack Napier was created by Tim Burton. A quick Google search can confirm both of these facts.


Two painfully false statements in a row and yet you'll still say I'm wrong, because that's all you've done this entire time. You ignore facts and say I'm dodging your questions, when I've answered them over and over. I'm just tired of talking to you like an equal, it's never going to get us anywhere, so I'm treating you like a child now.


Arthur fleck did not come from killing joke. I have read and seen killing joke and joker has no name there

Edit : and I disagree with you guys. Yes this movie isn’t even a real origin for him either based on your logic- all I was saying is that the joker that have seen as ceaser, jack, ledger, animated and killing joke all had the same backstory. Red hood chemicals etc... so that’s why I was saying it’s not an origin for the joker that we know. Unless you think Arthur fleck falls into the chemicals in joker 2 ( highly unlikely based on box office) but the timeline would be off. And yes I admit when I’m wrong and I say it like a man with no insults

This post was edited by Massous24 on Oct 14 2019 06:22pm
Blah58
#99 Oct 14 2019 06:14pm
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Quote (Massous24 @ Oct 14 2019 06:13pm)
Not so sure that Arthur fleck came from killing joke. I have read and seen killing joke and joker has no name there


You are really hung up on the name thing. It's like you aren't capable of understanding meaning beyond surface level shit.
Massous24
#100 Oct 14 2019 06:18pm
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Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 14 2019 08:14pm)
You are really hung up on the name thing. It's like you aren't capable of understanding meaning beyond surface level shit.



Because the name is how we can ID which joker were talking about? Unless you’re going to say there’s one joker.

Anyway it was fun , thanks for all the insults - I have in detail explained my points- if you don’t see where I’m coming from then ok-

This post was edited by Massous24 on Oct 14 2019 06:20pm
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