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Dec 3 2019 08:59am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 3 2019 08:51am)
It's really remarkable how such a quirky candidate/campaign who's focused on such a vastly different array of issues compared to the rest of the field keeps hanging in there. He obviously wont be the nominee in 2020 or any future election*, but given how obscure the core theme of his campaign has been to the broader public, and how little support he has from journalists and party elites, he must have really struck a chord to still be in it at such a late stage of the primary.




*if UBI turns out to be a big, important topic for voters, one that has the potential to win elections, then career politicians will pick it up and blow Yang out during, say, the 2028 primary or so. In terms of eloquence, charisma, networking and general knowledge on "how to do politics", Yang wont ever be able to measure up to a talented career politician. The purpose of his campaign ultimately is not to be the nominee, it's to raise awareness for the issue of automation/UBI, and he's doing a fantastic job in this sense.


media colusion takes two forms:

1. lack of coverage, and we can see this evidently in any CNN/MSNBC/ABC broadcast. you're lucky to hear his name at all.

2. narrow lane of coverage, UBI UBI UBI UBI UBI UBI. "how will you pay for this Mr Yang", "dont you think people need to work", "how did u end up on 1000$", etc.

if you portray Yang as a guy who only has ideas on UBI it's easy to paint him as a poor candidate. when in reality he has major platform ideas for teachers/education, jobs training, healthcare, domestic economics, climate change, etc.

his "vastly different array of issues" is as much of a media spin as it is truth. he's in an adjacent lane to be sure, but the media treats him like a tangent.
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Dec 3 2019 09:20am
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media colusion takes two forms:

1. lack of coverage, and we can see this evidently in any CNN/MSNBC/ABC broadcast. you're lucky to hear his name at all.

2. narrow lane of coverage, UBI UBI UBI UBI UBI UBI. "how will you pay for this Mr Yang", "dont you think people need to work", "how did u end up on 1000$", etc.

if you portray Yang as a guy who only has ideas on UBI it's easy to paint him as a poor candidate. when in reality he has major platform ideas for teachers/education, jobs training, healthcare, domestic economics, climate change, etc.

his "vastly different array of issues" is as much of a media spin as it is truth. he's in an adjacent lane to be sure, but the media treats him like a tangent.


Absolutely. I didnt pay too close attention to his campaign tbh, and I never read about those other parts of his platform in the media. Well, except for the snarky reference to the fact that he has a policy on circumcision.
It's also really striking how the moderators of all debates have overlooked him and given him far less speaking time than other candidates. Biden/Warren/Beto were allowed to ramble forever and a day while Yang was barely allowed to get anything in.
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Dec 3 2019 09:23am
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Absolutely. I didnt pay too close attention to his campaign tbh, and I never read about those other parts of his platform in the media. Well, except for the snarky reference to the fact that he has a policy on circumcision.
It's also really striking how the moderators of all debates have overlooked him and given him far less speaking time than other candidates. Biden/Warren/Beto were allowed to ramble forever and a day while Yang was barely allowed to get anything in.


it's a strategy they're using to keep focus off the need for UBI. automation is a panic inducing topic for many americans, they'll hide the importance of it until they can start reporting on the negative effects. as if it came from no where.

so they only ask him UBI questions to maintain the falsehood that it's all he has, which gives them an easy out for not giving him time. "well UBI and economics didn't come up". as if he's any less qualified to speak on feminist issues or healthcare than politicians who have no expertise in the field. (i know Bernie wrote the damn bill, but does Mayor Pete have any healthcare knowledge that Yang doesnt? of course not)
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Dec 3 2019 09:34am
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it's a strategy they're using to keep focus off the need for UBI. automation is a panic inducing topic for many americans, they'll hide the importance of it until they can start reporting on the negative effects. as if it came from no where.

so they only ask him UBI questions to maintain the falsehood that it's all he has, which gives them an easy out for not giving him time. "well UBI and economics didn't come up". as if he's any less qualified to speak on feminist issues or healthcare than politicians who have no expertise in the field. (i know Bernie wrote the damn bill, but does Mayor Pete have any healthcare knowledge that Yang doesnt? of course not)


Mayor pete is completely funded by corporate money.

He's basically the Obama candidate. He tries to appeal to people based on identity/values and never brings up policy because the reality is all of his policy is going to be backed by corporate pacs donors who will be about status quo. Vs someone like Bernie or Yang who all of their funding is through their supporters themselves and aren't tied into the corporate/media machine.
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Dec 3 2019 09:35am
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Mayor pete is completely funded by corporate money.

He's basically the Obama candidate. He tries to appeal to people based on identity/values and never brings up policy because the reality is all of his policy is going to be backed by corporate pacs donors who will be about status quo. Vs someone like Bernie or Yang who all of their funding is through their supporters themselves and aren't tied into the corporate/media machine.


yup, he's a pig in lipstick.

when i saw he pushed to #2 in some polls i knew something was up. the dude is milktoast af.
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Dec 3 2019 12:45pm
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/andrew-yang-notches-record-fundraising-haul-by-raising-750000-in-24-hours-211614760.html

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UBI does cause inflation which will decrease its effectiveness. he's not wrong at all.

yeah i read that and laughed, funny how a self-confessed multi-millionaire pale pasty privileged lefty like plaguefear doesn't understand math.
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Dec 3 2019 12:47pm
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yeah i read that and laughed, funny how a self-confessed multi-millionaire pale pasty privileged lefty like plaguefear doesn't understand math.


"everyone gets an apple, are apples worth more or less now". it really is that simple lol
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Dec 3 2019 12:49pm
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"everyone gets an apple, are apples worth more or less now". it really is that simple lol

just wait he'll argue about 'how in Australia the conservatives banned bananas and made special crooked deals with apple vendors and it didn't cause inflation for apples' or some unrelated falsehood of an anecdote :rofl:
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Dec 3 2019 01:04pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 3 2019 01:49pm)
just wait he'll argue about 'how in Australia the conservatives banned bananas and made special crooked deals with apple vendors and it didn't cause inflation for apples' or some unrelated falsehood of an anecdote :rofl:


Lol
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Dec 9 2019 09:02pm
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Lol

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