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Oct 8 2019 12:21pm
Quote (wupa @ Oct 7 2019 01:09am)
Voice of reason, malice

You need extreme luck to get Gul for Rift before hell A4 rune quest and even then Gul is the rarest roll


Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Oct 7 2019 01:25am)
Once you go black... :D


Quote (gel87 @ Oct 7 2019 06:21am)
black is way better yes :)


Quote (wupa @ Oct 8 2019 02:01am)
Crescent moon is also decent mini-Stormlash that gives OW and -lite res for shockwebs too


Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Oct 8 2019 04:13am)
How's it hard to get GUL before a4 hell?
Pits, mausoleum, ancient tunnels, and then there's LK too
:Wacko:


Quote (Sebadeos @ Oct 8 2019 07:28am)
Finding a Gul in LK is by far the easiest route. It's taken me, on average, around 3-4 hours to find either 2x Ist or Gul in the past.


Quote (Wisteria @ Oct 8 2019 10:12am)
Gimmershred.


Thanks for all the feedback folks. I'm gonna try Black for now and then consider Rift later on. I don't like VoR in theory--having just one source of elemental damage (cold) seems limiting and will also nullify corpse explosion from death sentry. But if I get the runes at some point, maybe I'll try it out.

Some updates...



Found in A3 or 4 NM... don't remember which


Decent NM forge
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Oct 8 2019 12:24pm
Was getting impatient tryna find a 3os flail for Black so I tried this...


And got it :thumbsup:


Had 3 Hels to cube up to Io, had a Thul, then realized I didn't have a Nef :wacko: Back to farming norm countess


This post was edited by TimTam on Oct 8 2019 12:34pm
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Oct 8 2019 12:33pm
BLACK


Started farming NM Meph on p3


Hella stacked resists


Gonna farm meph for a bit. Would be nice to find...

Boots (Gobs?)
Rings (Ravenfrost, dual leecher?)
Leech helm for merc (Andy's, Tals, that one grim helm I can't remember the name of)
New helm for me (Guil, Andy, Tal, grim?)
New armor for Merc (Duriel's?)
Gloves (Dracs?)
Belt (Dungo's, SoE)
Ammy (Honestly anything would be an upgrade compared to current--29 LR + half freeze duration)
MF gear (Skullders, Tarnhelm?, Shako?, Ali Babbster, Goldwrap, Chancies)
Runes, P rubies

This post was edited by TimTam on Oct 8 2019 12:38pm
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Quote (TimTam @ Oct 8 2019 12:33pm)
BLACK
https://i.imgur.com/bXBtfIg.jpg

Started farming NM Meph on p3
https://i.imgur.com/5d9Nhpt.jpg

Hella stacked resists
https://i.imgur.com/iXqKMXq.jpg

Gonna farm meph for a bit. Would be nice to find...

Boots (Gobs?)
Rings (Ravenfrost, dual leecher?)
Leech helm for merc (Andy's, Tals, that one grim helm I can't remember the name of)
New helm for me (Guil, Andy, Tal, grim?)
New armor for Merc (Duriel's?)
Gloves (Dracs?)
Belt (Dungo's, SoE)
Ammy (Honestly anything would be an upgrade compared to current--29 LR + half freeze duration)
MF gear (Skullders, Tarnhelm?, Shako?, Ali Babbster, Goldwrap, Chancies)
Runes, P rubies


I'm using a drop calculator and apparently some of these items can't be found at NM Meph (Andy's, Dungo's, Dracs, SHACCO). Also to clarify, yes I'm re-running meph on p3 even tho at the beginning of the wt I said p8 on all but countess. Things change, ya know?

e/ just noticed mf rates are the same at p1 so might run that instead...

This post was edited by TimTam on Oct 8 2019 01:14pm
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Oct 9 2019 12:31am
Just noticed dropped items are the same as hero editor items so might as well just use that instead ..

dang bro, dont challenge yourself too much
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Oct 9 2019 12:54am
Quote (Melatonina @ Oct 9 2019 01:31am)
Just noticed dropped items are the same as hero editor items so might as well just use that instead ..

dang bro, dont challenge yourself too much



Yah but.. Ali Babbster
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Oct 9 2019 01:51am
I got lucky with my Riftsin wt by getting decent 3ll 9ds +res blood craft for my merc in a first try. It carried until hell meph if I remember correctly. 3ll is not a lot but it adds up with treachery and decent base insights
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Oct 9 2019 02:18pm
Quote (Melatonina @ Oct 9 2019 12:31am)
Just noticed dropped items are the same as hero editor items so might as well just use that instead ..

dang bro, dont challenge yourself too much


Lol you make a valid point. Gonna move on and see how far I can progress with current gear. Will re-assess mf strategy when progress rate becomes unbearable

Quote (TheCreature19 @ Oct 9 2019 12:54am)
Yah but.. Ali Babbster


Exactly

Quote (wupa @ Oct 9 2019 01:51am)
I got lucky with my Riftsin wt by getting decent 3ll 9ds +res blood craft for my merc in a first try. It carried until hell meph if I remember correctly. 3ll is not a lot but it adds up with treachery and decent base insights


Ooh good idea... I hadn't considered that

This post was edited by TimTam on Oct 9 2019 02:23pm
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Oct 9 2019 03:47pm
how does dmg feels with black? :)
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Oct 9 2019 04:58pm
Quote (gel87 @ Oct 9 2019 03:47pm)
how does dmg feels with black? :)




CB is incredible on bosses and gnarly monsters. I miss the LL from Strength and the cold damage is kinda annoying for death sentries but overall I'm happy with it

This post was edited by TimTam on Oct 9 2019 04:59pm
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