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Aug 20 2019 09:14am
Quote (parker84 @ Aug 20 2019 05:09pm)
No mate. Only nec/dudu/bowa(I disagree with this)/pure hammer not using charge can use in gym duels.



Every1 i know always used 90res - sorc still holds adv tbh
Using charge to dodge missiles is a must on hammer too - shouldnt have any impact on items used imo

Also dudu/sin should b able to use 90 as well, sorc holds adv regardlessly

Barb with hots is cancer tho - i agree there xd
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Aug 20 2019 09:45am
I think it’s funny.

GM rules stated that 85 is cap max any res but Necro and Zon can use hotspurs which is 90max fire res.

I use

Waterwalks(80max fire res.)+ dwarf(sorb)

Or

Infernostrides(85max fire res.) + no sorb

Or

Vex rune in helm(80max fire res.) + dwarf(sorb)

This post was edited by Jhase on Aug 20 2019 09:47am
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Aug 20 2019 11:15am
Quote (Jhase @ Aug 20 2019 04:45pm)
I think it’s funny.

GM rules stated that 85 is cap max any res but Necro and Zon can use hotspurs which is 90max fire res.

I use

Waterwalks(80max fire res.)+ dwarf(sorb)

Or

Infernostrides(85max fire res.) + no sorb

Or

Vex rune in helm(80max fire res.) + dwarf(sorb)



Well I think nec, dudu and pure hammer can use hots as three need it vs es fb. I agree not needed for ama though.

This post was edited by parker84 on Aug 20 2019 11:23am
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Aug 20 2019 11:18am
Quote (Jhase @ Aug 20 2019 06:45pm)
I think it’s funny.

GM rules stated that 85 is cap max any res but Necro and Zon can use hotspurs which is 90max fire res.

I use

Waterwalks(80max fire res.)+ dwarf(sorb)

Or

Infernostrides(85max fire res.) + no sorb

Or

Vex rune in helm(80max fire res.) + dwarf(sorb)


Spurs nerf frw
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Aug 20 2019 04:42pm
Hots are gm on eu (I think?)

Hots are only gm on east on nec and zon.

Weird rules considering east had bmanas
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Aug 20 2019 06:32pm
Quote (SoNoFTheBiCH @ Aug 20 2019 11:42pm)
Hots are gm on eu (I think?)

Hots are only gm on east on nec and zon.

Weird rules considering east had bmanas


Old EU rules allowed hots on all chars except c/c sins. Idk if its changed over the years though
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Aug 21 2019 02:50am
Quote (parker84 @ Aug 20 2019 02:54am)
Well both stated r gm mate

80 + dwarf better for taking less damage ( hard to say best though as depends what u r giving up in build - jah etc)

Most fb does 20k so with 80 + dwarf u take 476 damage

With inferno u take 510 damage


my es fb does 20-21k damage. I always thought dwarf + 5% was BM except on necs. (and it should be)
you take less damage overall and will tank about 1 more hits but you do take more dmg with dwarf which could put you info that 75% stun category.
rough calculation -- <4.6-4.8k life use infernos to avoid most stun if >4.8k life or really any life if against a high es sorc then the dwarf + 5% would be better.
or I could be completely wrong, I've been out of d2 a while don't remember the little details all that well.
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Aug 21 2019 05:03am
Quote (Piwah @ Aug 21 2019 02:32am)
Old EU rules allowed hots on all chars except c/c sins. Idk if its changed over the years though


before that time again it was max 85 for barb/paladin/ama and 90 on nec/dudu, 80 on cc sin and even 80 on es soso, duels was also often held in nm xD

anyway, fire soso cant so shit when palas/babas use 90fr, i usually dont even use anything on barb vs soso xD
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Aug 21 2019 08:31am
Everyone should just use rising sun 2x dwarfs and hotspurs
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