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EndlessSky
#4371 Jun 6 2020 02:00pm
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 6 2020 03:56pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDrSvNyqEY

I predict Biden is not going to debate and make up an excuse like "COVID"


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Joe Biden Knows that deep down in his heart, he's gonna beat Ronald Reagan this November.


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#4372 Jun 6 2020 02:10pm
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 6 Jun 2020 15:56)
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I predict Biden is not going to debate and make up an excuse like "COVID"



thumbnail lmao
IceMage
#4373 Jun 6 2020 05:27pm
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 5 2020 01:22pm)
>Traditional progressive viewpoint on the military and wars: We need to reduce the military and stay out of wars aimed at furthering American Hegemony


>'Progressives' 2016-2020: Trump is reducing our influence and leadership abroad by bringing troops home, how fucking dare he! We need to intervene in Syria, we need to have large standing armies in Germany, Afghanistan and everywhere in between! The Russians are coming!!!



https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-directs-u-s-troop-reduction-in-germany-11591375651?mod=hp_lead_pos3

Then people wonder why hawks like Mattis or McCain and the rest of the neocon cabal hate Trump.


Just like with conservatives, there's varying views on foreign policy among progressives. I actually read and listen to progressives, and many agree with Trump's instinct to lessen America's footprint militarily around the world. They'd also take issue with Trump gutting the State Department, insulting our allies, praising our enemies, supplying the Saudi's bombs for the Yemen war, taking a hostile stance against Iran, etc.

Clear difference in my eyes between keeping forces in countries like Germany and South Korea, versus starting a war in Iraq or intervening in Libya.

Also, Mattis and McCain don't like Trump's foreign policy instincts, sure. But you're just using that as an excuse to not grapple with their legitimate criticisms of Trump on other issues. It's a constant refrain among Trumpists... to boil down good-faith criticisms by people into bad-faith ones based on policy disagreements.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 6 2020 05:28pm
IceMage
#4374 Jun 6 2020 05:48pm
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https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1269404151064268804

It's extraordinary the number of former senior Trump officials who have spoken out against him. I don't know how Trumpland can look at this and not do some self-reflection.

Then again, moments like these show us why it's called a cult. People who Trump appointed and praised for years immediately lose any and all credibility the second they criticize him.
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#4375 Jun 6 2020 05:54pm
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Just like with conservatives, there's varying views on foreign policy among progressives. I actually read and listen to progressives, and many agree with Trump's instinct to lessen America's footprint militarily around the world. They'd also take issue with Trump gutting the State Department, insulting our allies, praising our enemies, supplying the Saudi's bombs for the Yemen war, taking a hostile stance against Iran, etc.

Clear difference in my eyes between keeping forces in countries like Germany and South Korea, versus starting a war in Iraq or intervening in Libya.

Also, Mattis and McCain don't like Trump's foreign policy instincts, sure. But you're just using that as an excuse to not grapple with their legitimate criticisms of Trump on other issues. It's a constant refrain among Trumpists... to boil down good-faith criticisms by people into bad-faith ones based on policy disagreements.


It would help if your criticisms weren't laced with condescension.
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#4376 Jun 6 2020 05:58pm
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 6 Jun 2020 19:54)
It would help if your criticisms weren't laced with condescension.

he's also worshipping warmongering swamp demons, most of which who are neo-cons who made their political careers by blowing up brown women and children, the thought of which is about the only thing that can get his low-T juices flowing.
EndlessSky
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he's also worshipping warmongering swamp demons, most of which who are neo-cons who made their political careers by blowing up brown women and children, the thought of which is about the only thing that can get his low-T juices flowing.


Yea, we should actually be bombing the rice balls.
IceMage
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I noticed you've been absent from PaRD for the last 4-5 days. Protesting? :D
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Trump has now posted an unfathomable 200 tweets or retweets today -- the most of any day of his presidency
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