https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvNmyX

Just a rough draft. I'm sure it can be improved (like a cheaper case). It's $587 if you want to buy everything on Amazon.
Important to note it does not include a graphics card, but the CPU has graphics ability build in. It would be enough for D2 and lightweight (or old) games. If you wanted to play some newer graphic heavy games you will need a graphics card, which you could always add later.

You might need a SATA cable to hook up the SSD and DVD drive. The mobo does have a M.2 SATA slot so you could use an M.2 SSD drive instead which is about the same price, but due to it being M.2 SATA, it's not going to be any faster than a regular 2.5" SSD.

Prices could be further reduced by choosing cheaper brands but that is not my style. I aim for functionality, quality, and durability. Maybe somebody else can offer cheaper suggestions.

This post was edited by NatureNames on Aug 7 2019 09:10am

Here, cause guy above talks quality then posts shit...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kPktV6

-Larger/faster ssd + m.2
-Double the ram and faster
-Better mobo so YOU can oc down the road and it looks nice?
-Quality PSU brand
-Mech keyboard with browns (your keyboard essentially) + solid budget mouse.

and ROFL @optical drive, I mean how old are you?

This post was edited by King Atrhur on Aug 7 2019 10:07am

Ah yes I knew King Asshole would arrive to save the day with arrogance, ignorance, shitty brands, lame merchants, and overbudget. Just the type of balance we needed.

A whole 2$, bitch plz, you realize yours has 40$ mail in rebates so its far more over budget then mine is initially...
what shit brands? please elaborate so we can educate you... and who the fuck cares where it comes from so long as it comes working.

TIL intel, msi, seasonic, amd, gskill, cougar are shitty brands...

Only ibuypower, fisher price and any Chinese brand for me

Problems with your list:
-You ignore third party sellers that have bad or non existent return policies and merchants that have return policies so restrictive they might as well not exist (superbiiz and outletpc).
-Some of your list isn't even in stock at those sellers (the mobo), adding cost again. Now your build is up to $634.
-"so long as it comes working", yeah, you better hope so because returning some of that stuff is not an option or will be a lengthy pain the ass.
-Suggesting he get 16 gigs of ram from the start when he will probably not even use 8gb given the circumstances of his other hardware and use scenario. He can buy more later if he needs it.
-Did you even look at the reviews on that keeb? It's real bad.

Or my list. All can be purchased from Amazon (as earlier noted) / no scam rebates. It all comes directly from Amazon Inc, backed by their 30 day returning policy on all items - no questions asked. Free shipping . Just $587 in 1 order. Every item on that list has good reviews too.

The problem is you just slap your parts lists together without really thinking about the end user. You do this pretty much every day. To make matters worse you're rude and shit on other people's suggestions every day (not just mine).

Your suggestion of that Intel M2 drive was great. Try being helpful without being a jerk.


Intel, MSI, and SeaSonic are good brands. However Acer, G.Skill, Steelseries, and Cougar are what I'd consider shitty brands. And AMD well.. if you consider their reputation for GPU drivers, eek! Consider their CPUs for the last decade? eek! But it's a <$600 build, some concessions do have to be made.

I know the end user, known him for years.

seasonic is probably #1 psu maker atm. Msi is fine and so is intel. cougar i'll agree with but there's no better case at that price point.
587 1 order is a crock of shit, your forgetting your rebates.
all items are fully backed with the sites, I've ordered more parts in 1 year then you've probably ordered in ur lifetime.
Show me these super unfair / impossible return warranty sites? always the manufacturer and advanced shipping policy's.
the out of stock items ship in 1 week, (mobo/ram) LOL its not really out of stock you just have a slight delay.
4/5 stars so bad for keyboard, oh my what ever will we do, most the bad reviews are for the software not the functionality of the board.

I do me, I ain't here to hold your/anyone else's hand. Don't liek it leave, cause I assure you I'm here to stay.

I don't have time hand feed it to you. Check the return policy of superbiiz and outletpc. My list is sitting in my amazon cart right now, you can do the same if you really care. There is no rebates.

Here is your crock of shit. I'm really done wasting my time now.


Even has that optical drive you love.

This post was edited by NatureNames on Aug 7 2019 02:19pm