Quote (Boogmax @ Jul 17 2019 12:38pm)
You can play every game for fun, you can also to compet.
Many ppl playing football, basketball or whatever to have fun AND to try winning the championship because there is a ladder with your name.
Diablo II would be a game with no ladder, i think we wouldnt care about bots but we could only have fun.
But there is a ladder, so we want fun AND competition.
In my opinion Diablo II is based on the competition as you get experience, levels and ladder ranks.
Quote (Youshould @ Jul 18 2019 03:31am)
If killing a bot was possible but very technical and requiring skills then yes it would be fun just like in a Fps game vs bots.
Also you compared d2 pvm with football, it’s a lot lacking. Give me 6 free month, a good comp, food and drinks, cigs and I can be competitive in d2 ladder xping/finding items. Give me whatever you want but I will never be a competitive footballer even if I tryed 15 years.
I mean do you really think that you need to be « good » at d2 to be competitive in ladder ranking ? Imo it just mean you invested more time than others. You haven’t used any « skills » to be better than others, you just tryed harder.
Quote (dropship @ Jul 17 2019 01:53pm)
Bots gave everyone a way to compete: items and levels for "free".
Without bots people would splash the cash for items. With bots, you could get items to compete (not the best, but steal reasonable).
When bots died - Diablo 2 died, because people who used to play are nowadays 30+ and dont have time to legit search for items. Even legit leveling takes a ton of time.
When the 24/7 public bots died, Classic became dead too. In the past you could level up in own rhytm using a public CS game. Now, no more public CS games.
Rarely a game around 20:00.
Quote (andrasdream @ Jul 17 2019 01:39pm)
next ladder im going to manually get to lvl 99, need 24/7 players to assist me.
Quote (Rusemen @ Jul 16 2019 04:33pm)
we played ladder and duelled after a few weeks, with shittier gear.
bots killed ladder, followed by gear imbalance on non ladder...
botting was fun, dont get me wrong, but having more people to play with was even funnier
We shouldnt just focus on the pvm side.
We should focus on the gm/bm public pvps and the all mighty 4v4 wars!!
Since the gears are equal for all toons, we can now focus on the talents of being able to slay another player without the excuse of saying "your gears are far superior then mines".
I've met alot of players who said they use to PvP 3-8years ago... That's somewhat around the era of public tools to halp those whose fingers wasn't fast enough.
But seeing how they can't use those tools they have resorted to pvm and pvm only...
With practice it'll become perfectly smooth for those who can only pvm.
Besides not like your toon will b forever deleted(unless hcmode)
And not like you can buy groceries with pixel gold's
Also who wants a nasty organ called ear as a trophy??
It was fun pvping those who would e-rage instantly after death.
It was really fun when someone would being chasing and the other player comes and host the chaos party.
2v6 was always fun
3v5 4v4 1.5v6 etc etc. Those r the greatest moments of d2 History