Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Jul 12 2019 05:15am)

Some people can't enjoy the game because competition, which is a great part of the game, is distorted

Quote (kasper420 @ 16 Jul 2019 13:11)

Only competing each for pvm has never been much of a fight for.

Quote (kasper420 @ 16 Jul 2019 13:11)

Now getting recognized and having people instant host you is worthy

Bring back PvP if your crying bout pvm bots

Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Jul 16 2019 06:21am)

Wrong, for many people this was the only purpose of playing d2.



I am still playing, so i can live with them. They made a big part of the community quit, that's a fact we don't have to argue about and i'm trying to say why. Simply ignoring them is no option for many.

You can't separate pvp from pvm completely. You have to aquire exp and items for pvp and trade is heavily influenced by bots.

How do you "bring back pvp" ?

Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Jul 16 2019 01:21pm)

Wrong, for many people this was the only purpose of playing d2.



I am still playing, so i can live with them. They made a big part of the community quit, that's a fact we don't have to argue about and i'm trying to say why. Simply ignoring them is no option for many.

You can't separate pvp from pvm completely. You have to aquire exp and items for pvp and trade is heavily influenced by bots.

How do you "bring back pvp" ?

Quote (Youshould @ 16 Jul 2019 15:34)

D2 is a hard game in term of item droprate, the good items would have been incredibly expensive if there was no bots ever, this would mean unbalanced pvp due to unequal gears.

Bots made it possible for many ppls to gear themselves and learn the GM pvp. Imo GM pvp in d2 is so special and fun that it kept the game alive for fkin 17 years (pvpers AND pvmers)

If d2 never had bots It would have died completely 10 years ago

Just an opinion

Quote (Rusemen @ Jul 16 2019 11:33pm)

we played ladder and duelled after a few weeks, with shittier gear.

bots killed ladder, followed by gear imbalance on non ladder...

botting was fun, dont get me wrong, but having more people to play with was even funnier

Quote (Boogmax @ Jul 17 2019 01:16pm)

I dont want to argue on the fact that bots killed diablo or kept it alive.

But when i read you, ppl boting seem to be active only to provide items to other players, to make profits and to find realy gozu items.

So im just wondering why are they boting in hell cs ? that way, they killing the pvm ladder, many players stopped and keep stopping nowadays.

That would be much better to bot with several chars in one game with sorc killing anda, an other one killing meph and a barb doing travi run. About the same time spending than csing, more items, and no fast exping to make a top 20 invasion in ladder.

That way, people boting would find more items and "normal" players would have a "clear" ladder. And ofc a clear ladder means more players, so more buyers for boted items.

But maybe im wrong and people boting are proud to be in top 10 of a ladder thx to a bot ... :cry:

Quote (Youshould @ Jul 17 2019 07:19pm)

Last ladder I did a char online and played at my own rythm, finding my own gears, playing with ppls around w/o spending a single fg, I enjoyed my pvm trip, I enjoyed finding my own items. I havent seen a single bot joining my game nor trying to sell me anything.

But smthing I dont understand anyway is to grind for few days/weeks like a mad killing the same mobs very easily just to see my name written on a ladder, but if thats what ppls are looking for well I guess bots are annoying