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Jun 17 2019 08:08pm
which char with best gear is better in 8 player game by themselves
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Jun 17 2019 08:43pm
hammerdin since barely zero immunes and way harder to die
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Jun 17 2019 11:02pm
Lite sorc by a mile. Higher damage, higher mobility and lightning is a better AOE spell because it takes less time to reach the target on average and is easier to target.

The only immunes that aren't breakable with infinity are mostly in Act I, II and III (zones which nobody would ever farm anyway) - which just leaves the occasional lightning enchanted boss. Given that wave 2 in throne is always magic immune, if you were running CBaals, the light sorc and hammerdin will face approximately the same number of immunes per run.
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Jun 18 2019 08:42am
If doing chaos runs: Hammerdin
If doing anything else: Lite sorc
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Jun 20 2019 12:01am
Quote (Volk @ Jun 19 2019 01:42am)
If doing chaos runs: Hammerdin
If doing anything else: Lite sorc


Lite sorc for chaos runs too - that's literally a lite sorc's specialty.
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Lite sorc for chaos runs too - that's literally a lite sorc's specialty.


Of course but I'd argue that chaos is the only place in which a hammer may rival or beat a sorc in terms of speed since the 1 or 2 frames of slower tele don't matter as much since it's an almost fixed map and that the better resilience hammerdins have help telestomp and tank better.
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Quote (draftw3dr @ 20 Jun 2019 08:01)
Lite sorc for chaos runs too - that's literally a lite sorc's specialty.

you get totally cucked when light immunes hit...

hammerdin>sorc at cs
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Quote (darrajuju @ Jun 21 2019 01:08am)
you get totally cucked when light immunes hit...

hammerdin>sorc at cs


Er ... no, on average Lite sorcs are A LOT stronger than Hammerdins when both have endgame gear. The only relevant light immunes are the seal bosses which your merc will polish off very easily. Hammerdins are much slower vs. everything else - and it's not close.
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Quote (draftw3dr @ 20 Jun 2019 17:42)
Er ... no, on average Lite sorcs are A LOT stronger than Hammerdins when both have endgame gear. The only relevant light immunes are the seal bosses which your merc will polish off very easily. Hammerdins are much slower vs. everything else - and it's not close.

Look who have never played hammerdin on p8 :)
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