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Jun 25 2019 01:13pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 25 2019 08:48pm)
The Iranian regime needs to come to grip with their small place in the world.


It is not as small as many wish, and Iranians are not doing anything others aren't doing. You are advocating bullying of nations here, that would make USA the rogue nation between the two :)
Regardless what either side thinks of the other, I don't think Iran will die slow. They will take their appropriate size in the world or they will have to be militarily conquered. Basically, waving a stick won't be enough it will need to be used.
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Jun 25 2019 01:14pm
Have the pro-lifers started calling for the obliteration of Iran yet?
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Jun 25 2019 01:32pm
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Have the pro-lifers started calling for the obliteration of Iran yet?

some yeah but mostly it’s been the “pro-choicer lovers of death” like yourself
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Jun 25 2019 01:34pm
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some yeah but mostly it’s been the “pro-choicer lovers of death” like yourself


That's really interesting. Can you show me a pro-choice liberal calling for Iran to wiped off the planet? I'd love to see your evidence. Thanks in advance for linking sources.
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Jun 25 2019 01:53pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ 25 Jun 2019 15:34)
That's really interesting. Can you show me a pro-choice liberal calling for Iran to wiped off the planet? I'd love to see your evidence. Thanks in advance for linking sources.


https://t.co/MWLNDSkE3j
celebrating Trump’s initial decision to strike (which he called back, much to your disgust) just like when Bush got Schumer and Hillary’s approval to invade Iraq.
https://i.redd.it/7ul9scnje6z21.png
warmonger giving “advice” on iran to democrats

Quote (inkanddagger @ 19 Feb 2019 16:22)
You need to be executed by a firing squad and shoved into a mass grave but I don't follow you around the internet to post about it.


again, pro lovers of death. no one wants the death of others more than you - youre one horrid privileged lefty
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Jun 25 2019 01:59pm
Oh come on, conservatives aren't even people
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Jun 25 2019 02:01pm
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It is not as small as many wish, and Iranians are not doing anything others aren't doing. You are advocating bullying of nations here, that would make USA the rogue nation between the two :)
Regardless what either side thinks of the other, I don't think Iran will die slow. They will take their appropriate size in the world or they will have to be militarily conquered. Basically, waving a stick won't be enough it will need to be used.


Obviously small enough. I hate these false equivalency arguments, as most nations are not running state-sponsored militias out of other countries, or aggressively funding proxy wars overseas. But it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. The United States does not want Iran to destabilize the Middle East. Iran is under no obligation to comply, but the United States is under no obligation to allow its citizens or its allies to trade with Iran.

It costs the Americans nothing to sanction Iran, it costs the Iranians a great deal. There's no need for anyone to die or be conquered, the Iranians can live impoverished, miserable lives for as long as their regime wants.
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Jun 25 2019 02:18pm
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I hate these false equivalency arguments, as most nations are not running state-sponsored militias out of other countries, or aggressively funding proxy wars overseas..


USA for one does both of these things :)

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It costs the Americans nothing to sanction Iran, it costs the Iranians a great deal. There's no need for anyone to die or be conquered, the Iranians can live impoverished, miserable lives for as long as their regime wants.


I don't know if it costs nothing, that is debatable. Regardless, Iranians can easily provoke a military confrontation if they feel cornered, in which case there would be no feasible solution for USA other than sending 100s of thousands of soldiers to middle east.
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Jun 25 2019 02:18pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 25 2019 09:01pm)
Obviously small enough. I hate these false equivalency arguments, as most nations are not running state-sponsored militias out of other countries, or aggressively funding proxy wars overseas. But it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. The United States does not want Iran to destabilize the Middle East. Iran is under no obligation to comply, but the United States is under no obligation to allow its citizens or its allies to trade with Iran.

It costs the Americans nothing to sanction Iran, it costs the Iranians a great deal. There's no need for anyone to die or be conquered, the Iranians can live impoverished, miserable lives for as long as their regime wants.


And that's where John Snow Europe Stabs US Danny in the heart.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jun 25 2019 02:19pm
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Jun 25 2019 02:22pm
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And that's where John Snow Europe Stabs US Danny in the heart.


Geopolitics is no longer uni or bipolar. Things are complicated now. For one thing is sure, power of USA is waning. I do hope the American nation can ultimately handle the decline gracefully and not take half the world down with them in a tantrum :)
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