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#31
May 9 2019 01:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 9 2019 12:08pm)
yup max lvl jewel u can socket is 25, for up'd rogues.

just rogues w/ no other IAS = 9 fpa

Rogues + Bfists = still 9 fpa

Rogues + Deaths = 8 fpa

Rogues + bfists + twitch = 8fpa

(someone correct if i'm wrong)


that's what i always built on ladder early. twitch, bfists, soe, rogues then upgraded as jewels became available.



Sanders > bfist
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#32
May 9 2019 01:26pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ May 9 2019 01:22pm)
Sanders > bfist


disagree.

sanders + bfists both = 40 life

10 more ias on sanders, but still 9 fpa, so that's a wash.

9-11 poi dmg vs +5 min dmg, Bfists wins there

defense is a wash when u up the bfists, even unup'd it's def vs 30 FHR.

2 pc set bonus on sanders is +50 def, no big deal there.

but purple color is cool.
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May 9 2019 01:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 9 2019 12:26pm)
disagree.

sanders + bfists both = 40 life

10 more ias on sanders, but still 9 fpa, so that's a wash.

9-11 poi dmg vs +5 min dmg, Bfists wins there

defense is a wash when u up the bfists, even unup'd it's def vs 30 FHR.

2 pc set bonus on sanders is +50 def, no big deal there.

but purple color is cool.



I had builds confused, bfist is better in this situation.
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May 9 2019 01:32pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ May 9 2019 01:28pm)
I had builds confused, bfist is better in this situation.


yeah sanders is a cool item for sure that people don't ever think to use. and honestly zonka doesn't need FHR like many builds. but i still like my bfists.

honestly i'm cool with even a more high dmg build with bfists and soe at like 11 fpa. better on mana and i dont spam much when i play zon.
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May 9 2019 01:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 9 2019 12:32pm)
yeah sanders is a cool item for sure that people don't ever think to use. and honestly zonka doesn't need FHR like many builds. but i still like my bfists.

honestly i'm cool with even a more high dmg build with bfists and soe at like 11 fpa. better on mana and i dont spam much when i play zon.



My hybrid uses sanders w/ gothic bow... I think it’s 10fpa.
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May 9 2019 01:57pm
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My hybrid uses sanders w/ gothic bow... I think it’s 10fpa.


Gothic robo or rare?

there's a few slick PP gothics on east but the price has never been right for me to grab one. especially one with reqs. and the one up for sale now is a legit, so if i convert it they'll never sell me another item lol
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May 9 2019 02:01pm
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Gothic robo or rare?

there's a few slick PP gothics on east but the price has never been right for me to grab one. especially one with reqs. and the one up for sale now is a legit, so if i convert it they'll never sell me another item lol



Robo, I added some -req jewels so it’s like -45req/27dex or something... I don’t remember what rare west had but I don’t think it had -req and I doubt there’s any around for me to look at lol
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May 9 2019 02:07pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ May 9 2019 02:01pm)
Robo, I added some -req jewels so it’s like -45req/27dex or something... I don’t remember what rare west had but I don’t think it had -req and I doubt there’s any around for me to look at lol


East has these, although i'm not sure what is left in existence:

Gale Song is the only real possibility, w/ 10 ias more = 12 FPA, w/ 30 ias more = 11 FPA (to jewel it).......Shael + 10 ias = 11 FPA, Shael + 30 ias = 10 fpa, Shael + 50 ias = 9 fpa

not ideal by any means but it would pack a mean punch top end.





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May 9 2019 02:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 9 2019 01:07pm)
East has these, although i'm not sure what is left in existence:

Gale Song is the only real possibility, w/ 10 ias more = 12 FPA, w/ 30 ias more = 11 FPA (to jewel it).......Shael + 10 ias = 11 FPA, Shael + 30 ias = 10 fpa, Shael + 50 ias = 9 fpa

not ideal by any means but it would pack a mean punch top end.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/ownageonline/galesong.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/ownageonline/loathflight.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/ownageonline/bbranch.gif



We had a 2zon/20ias/160+ ed one... I could never find an image of it though.
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