It is the same. I would prefer raising your min damage.

that's interesting. so in your opinion, up'd rogues bow or robo w/ 2x shael & 3x 20ed/15max jewels?

I personally prefer Up'd Rogues over anything but a top notch Robo with 3x rare jewels. (or rare prepatch bow like Rune Dart, which i use) something like ed/max/dex caliber jewels. even 20-15's i'd prefer a rogues over that.

especially if it's a temp bow that you'll replace. 1x 20-15 jewel vs 3x. then use a robo with rare jewels if u can get them.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 9 2019 11:58am

thank you for your response. I'll grab an up'd rogues before popping jewels in, and see how it feels

Even a simple 15 maxer could work in it as a temp to test it out.

ladder rerolls in 3 weeks, might be some robos on NL u could buy pre-made, also.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 9 2019 12:05pm

Up’d Rogues is dope, it’s the fastest fpa. 8? I think... throw a nef in it and sorc’s have a hard time touching you. It’s only about 300-400? Less dmg than a high end robo, but the 30% DS makes up for it... most ppl don’t like how much mana it uses because of how fast it is, but if mana is an issue you can change to sanders gloves/soe or rare belt

i cant find an image of up'd rogues bow anywhere lol, i wanna get a feel for the final damage, and if i throw a 20-23 max jewel in it if it will compare with robo at all. this is great info tho, thanks for the ideas for gear swaps and helping me get started with lld everyone. looks like ill check out a basic build, and hold onto the jewels for now

21+ dmg would throw it over lvl 30, just nef it and get KB

The dmg w/ rogues would be 8-900ish where’s as the avg robo is 1100-1300ish? Lld

Rogues is great. You need either are top notch robo or high end rare to beat it. Only downside is you have to use lower level reqs jewels in it.

Rare double bows can get 8 frames as well and would be preferable to rogues if it has good stats since you can socket jewels with level reqs higher than 25 and use a shael rune if needed.

yup max lvl jewel u can socket is 25, for up'd rogues.

just rogues w/ no other IAS = 9 fpa

Rogues + Bfists = still 9 fpa

Rogues + Deaths = 8 fpa

Rogues + bfists + twitch = 8fpa

(someone correct if i'm wrong)


that's what i always built on ladder early. twitch, bfists, soe, rogues then upgraded as jewels became available.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 9 2019 01:08pm