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KamikazeShady
#1051 May 27 2019 05:43pm
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Quote (Meatstick @ May 27 2019 07:28pm)
Season 8 gets a 30-35 from me


Youre generous. :o
dro94
#1052 May 27 2019 11:36pm
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Quote (piatek @ May 27 2019 09:42pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRN1cZPvKc


HBO and GRRM wanted 10 or 11 seasons, but D&D wanted to be done with it and move on to Star Wars. https://youtu.be/fQfCzGcODUM


Good luck getting the actors to sign up to that amount of seasons. They'll want to move on to other projects too and avoid being that actor from GoT.
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#1053 May 28 2019 02:32am
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Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 27 2019 10:06pm)
Yes.

Shows like The Flash got higher than 54s. Anyone who thinks the Flash is better than S8 should be shot.


Agreed.

I didn't personally think the show ended as well as it could have (because the show has set itself incredibly high standards for many years) regardless, objectively, it was still amazing television.

People giving it the lowest possible rating to bring the average down to laughable levels are doing so out of anger, not honesty.
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Quote (piatek @ May 27 2019 04:42pm)
D&D wanted to be done with it and move on to Star Wars.


that's a popular story, but it doesn't really seem likely if you take a closer look at the timeline: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/brj0dt/no_spoilers_timeline_of_season_7_8s_plan_and_star/

I don't personally blame D&D for cutting the series short. So much goes into making a TV show. Egos, contracts, massive workload and responsibility. This is the first show they ever worked on and it turned into one of the most massive projects in the history of television.

GRRM is sitting back being a "writing consultant" waiting for his check to roll in and refusing to help the show by releasing his books so D&D have them. When D&D started this project in 2005, they probably expected the next book to be ready by the time the show reached that point in the story.

I totally understand D&D wanting to live a life as a human being outside the production of GoT. If they had done what GRRM wanted, it would have meant devoting 20 years of their life to an adaptation without even having all the source material.

----- With all that being said, I do blame them for S8E3 being so bad. I wouldn't hold it against them for doing a bad job, but they didn't even try to give the NK a story. At least make some attempt. There were so many ways that could have tied him into the main characters that would have been satisfying.----

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#1055 May 28 2019 07:38am
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Quote (dro94 @ May 28 2019 12:36am)
Good luck getting the actors to sign up to that amount of seasons. They'll want to move on to other projects too and avoid being that actor from GoT.


dont need 10 seasons to be ''that actor from x show''
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#1056 May 28 2019 11:35am
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Quote (Kayeto @ May 28 2019 09:33am)
that's a popular story, but it doesn't really seem likely if you take a closer look at the timeline: https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/brj0dt/no_spoilers_timeline_of_season_7_8s_plan_and_star/

I don't personally blame D&D for cutting the series short. So much goes into making a TV show. Egos, contracts, massive workload and responsibility. This is the first show they ever worked on and it turned into one of the most massive projects in the history of television.

GRRM is sitting back being a "writing consultant" waiting for his check to roll in and refusing to help the show by releasing his books so D&D have them. When D&D started this project in 2005, they probably expected the next book to be ready by the time the show reached that point in the story.

I totally understand D&D wanting to live a life as a human being outside the production of GoT. If they had done what GRRM wanted, it would have meant devoting 20 years of their life to an adaptation without even having all the source material.

----- With all that being said, I do blame them for S8E3 being so bad. I wouldn't hold it against them for doing a bad job, but they didn't even try to give the NK a story. At least make some attempt. There were so many ways that could have tied him into the main characters that would have been satisfying.----


Good analysis, I also don't have anything against the writers.
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#1057 May 28 2019 01:43pm
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Quote (fuzzy159 @ May 27 2019 03:06pm)
Yes.

Shows like The Flash got higher than 54s. Anyone who thinks the Flash is better than S8 should be shot.


Different types of shows have different meaning and shouldn't be judged on the same scales.

Something like The Flash is a light entertainment piece. It's not trying to be a great show, it's trying to be a fun entertaining show.

Shows like GoT are trying to be "great" television.

WelSh
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Quote (Blah58 @ May 28 2019 07:43pm)
Different types of shows have different meaning and shouldn't be judged on the same scales.

Something like The Flash is a light entertainment piece. It's not trying to be a great show, it's trying to be a fun entertaining show.

Shows like GoT are trying to be "great" television.


But there is no seperate or independent rating system for shows with different intentions as you put it. Have to conpare them using a universal rating system, and whether you like it or not, objectively the GoT finale is better than any episode flash has ever put out.
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Quote (Blah58 @ May 28 2019 03:43pm)
Different types of shows have different meaning and shouldn't be judged on the same scales.

Something like The Flash is a light entertainment piece. It's not trying to be a great show, it's trying to be a fun entertaining show.

Shows like GoT are trying to be "great" television.


That is my point. People are holding GoT to some ridiculous standard. Judging a show based on its past makes no sense. Rate it for what it is.
Blah58
#1060 May 28 2019 05:32pm
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Quote (WelSh @ May 28 2019 01:47pm)
But there is no seperate or independent rating system for shows with different intentions as you put it. Have to conpare them using a universal rating system, and whether you like it or not, objectively the GoT finale is better than any episode flash has ever put out.


I disagree. When I say whatever episode of the Flash is a 9/10 I am not saying it's better than an 8/10 episode of GoT. I'm saying for the type of show it is, it was well done and did it's job.

Also I just disagree completely with your opinion. The last episode of GoT is about 2x the length of an episode of the Flash. So if we split the last episode of GoT into two episodes at the logical split point (or what would have rationally happened) "episode 1" of the finale would end with Jon killing Dany and Drogon flying away with her body. That first half of the episode, while it had some issues was still pretty solid.

The second half, aka "episode 2", of the finale though is probably some of the worst writing/television I have ever seen in my life. The Flash had definitely had better episodes than that.
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